Which Rev? (1, 1.5, 2, or B)

[John146]

I'm wondering if someone can give a brief description about the different Revs. I have a Supersonic and I'm interested in another but I'm not sure which I should look at. I've seen discussions about the Rev 1, Rev 2, 1.5, 1.5 SLE, the Sedgwick, and the B.

I'm wondering about the pros and cons for each type.

Can someone help? Or are there key words I can search on to find topics that might show the differences?

[Baloo]

I got my 2 wrap for the Sedgwick and have now had a chance to fly it in ultra light wind. Love it. It defies gravity. I would never take it out in any big wind as it feels like a spider web out there. I had people coming up to me asking how I do that with no wind. There were 2 to 3mph winds which were plenty to do anything I know how to do in any wind. I know the Rev 1 will fly in heavy winds with the other wraps in it but it flies so sweet with that 2 wrap I think I will save mine for those light wind days.

Baloo, I still don’t fly “just like John” but then again no one around here has seen John fly.

Hey I just worked out that quote the msg thing. Been trying to do that for ages.

[John146]

Sorry, guys! I didn't mean to be rude. I forgot the logon ID I created and never got around to checking my email history to retrieve it. Now I feel bad! My apologies for bad behavior!

I'm leaning towards the Sedgwick based on what everyone was saying. I'd like something slower and more precise. I have a friend that may be selling a std and vented Sedgwick. I'll have to try it out when the weather improves. (It's been cold, snowy, rainy, and icey.)

Thanks for all the responses. (I'll have to find out more about the different types of rods that you can use.)

[DWayne]

Good to see you're alive and well and still have Revs on the brain.

A pair of Sedgwicks sounds like an awesome beginning.

Denny

[John146]

I can't believe it! I've been pinned! And I'm the new guy too! I feel like I won the lottery!

Update: I just picked up my std and vented Sedgwicks today. Beautiful kites. I got a 2 wrap in the std, a 3 wrap in the vented and a spare 4 wrap. I'm looking forward to trying them out! Thanks for all the advice!

[Baloo]

egg-saktly wot I got Bob. Nice and crispy, postly delivered them in time for the weekend.

Winds gusting anything from 10 th 30+ish mph. Sedgwicks stayed in the bag. Vented B got plenty of exersise though.

[merf]

Hiya, I have a similar dilemma, Im looking to get my first revolution and am torn between a RevI Sedgwick and RevII Barresi. With line, handles and everything else they come out at exactly the same price. The Sedgwick has a 2 and 4 wrap frame while the Barresi has a 2 and 3, so I think this gives them pretty similar wind ranges (with the RevI having a slight edge at both the upper and lower end).

A lot of people seem to really love the Barresi - could you give me some idea what it is about it that you prefer over the RevI? I've read that the RevI is more precise, so is the Barresi faster/twitchier? would this mean that it is potentially not the best kite to learn the ropes on?

Finally a lot of people have recommended trying to meet up with an existing flyer, does anyone live near to Guildford who would be willing to give me a hand setting up and getting flying once I take the plunge?

Thanks for all the helpful info on the forums!

P.S. what exactly is a 'wrap'? and how/why does it effect the wind speed you can fly in?

[KiteLife]

Rev I is referred to as "more precise" simply because of it's size... Larger kite absorbs larger inputs, but the response isn't nearly as crisp... Think road bike (cruiser), compared to a racing bike... Can't drive a road bike around corners the same way, but it sure cruises along nicely.

B-Series has more sail in the center of the kite (proportionately), which equals more sail pressure and usable power in the center of the kite, which is where all the control and drive comes from... Also, the B-Series comes pre-configured with very necessary adjustments on the handles and TWO frames (more wraps for high wind - less wraps for low wind).

I'll let everyone else comment and provide suggestions, wouldn't want to appear biased.

Pssst... Get a B, you won't be disappointed!

[mrdenny]

Finally a lot of people have recommended trying to meet up with an existing flyer, does anyone live near to Guildford who would be willing to give me a hand setting up and getting flying once I take the plunge?

If a Rev person does live close by, I suggest that you try different ones before you buy. Although you will totally enjoy which ever one you decide on they are very different. Most of the folks I know who have a Rev or two would love to help you out and let you fly what ever they have. If your like most of us you will have several before you are done anyway. One more thought. If there are several Rev people in your area, or you plan to fly in groups, the Rev 1 will likely be the odd man out as most team stuff is done with 1.5s.

[Morrunya]

I've read that the RevI is more precise, so is the Barresi faster/twitchier? would this mean that it is potentially not the best kite to learn the ropes on?

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P.S. what exactly is a 'wrap'? and how/why does it effect the wind speed you can fly in?

Hi Neil,

I like to think of it as the Rev I is the big boy. Slower, but can be quite precise. the way John puts it is great. The Rev II on the other hand, is very fast and tends to be kind of twitchy. The rev 1.5 Barresi is in the middle of these two. It has the precision of a Rev I, and the fast crisp movements of a Rev II.

Wraps simply show the thickness, weight, and strength of the rods. A two wrap frame is very light and is good for those light wind days, but they will break if they are put into wind that is too heavy. The four wrap is heavy, but quite strong. A lot of times, people go as far as putting in two leading edges when the wind is really heavy. This not only strengthens the kite, but gives it some more weight to reduce the pull.

[JynxKites]

B-Series has more sail in the center of the kite (proportionately), which equals more sail pressure and usable power in the center of the kite, which is where all the control and drive comes from... Also, the B-Series comes pre-configured with very necessary adjustments on the handles and TWO frames (more wraps for high wind - less wraps for low wind).

I'll let everyone else comment and provide suggestions, wouldn't want to appear biased.

Pssst... Get a B, you won't be disappointed!

Not biased and as a beginner... I totally agree! GET a "B"!

[dean750]

Rev 1 for sure. I've only flown with the 4 wrap frame. But the 1 while being slow will help you learn all you need to know.

After flying the 1, I get on the 1.5 or B or B Pro and I'm in total control.

I learned not only how to axle with the 1, but how to pull out early leading to other things. Go to the 1.5 series and you'll do it all with speed and ease.

Dean

[imarche]

I'd wholeheartedly recommend the 1.5 or B-series. It's much more "even" feeling and feels nimble and crisp. You can get good slow precision with the 1.5 too! Overall, much more intuitive and relaxing to fly and I believe it being the most common Rev kite out there, esp if you were to meet fellow flyers for team fly.

A 2wrap Rev 1 is nice for floaty stuff in light winds. I fly my Sedgwick 1 with 4 and 2 wraps. It's got a bigger presence and more suitable for slow, graceful flying. The 1.5 is just better overall in that you can do both spectrums well.

I remembered one description of the Rev 1 being " 2 wings fighting for control" (was that from John? ). I agree with that. You need to keep the 2 wings in "sync" to tame the beast .

Cheers

Clin

[LS Kite Stakes]

The vented Rev1 I flew at White Rock was sweet though. Steady as a rock hover, put the kite where I wanted and kept it there. I was even tapping a leading edge tip on top of a metal light pole to get peoples attention underneath, then tip standing on the pole, then flying a tight slow circle and tip landing again. Had all kinds of folk looking up and pointing, it was a blast!

[Jonesey]

Finally a lot of people have recommended trying to meet up with an existing flyer, does anyone live near to Guildford who would be willing to give me a hand setting up and getting flying once I take the plunge?

Neil..

Hello and Welcome

Personally I think the choice is B series everytime (John you have my Bank details dont you?) ... however I also think the try before you buy is sensible, and assuming you mean Guildford UK then send me a PM and we can arrange a meet up and let you try most things in the Rev range ...

There are a bunch of us 'Hampshire Hoverers' around here so a short trip up or down the A3 should get you sorted

Jonesey

[sailor99]

There are a bunch of us 'Hampshire Hoverers' around here so a short trip up or down the A3 should get you sorted

For sure. Hardly any distance at all.

[KiteLife]

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

[Jonesey]

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

Oh so not Jeremy or me then

[sailor99]

Oh so not Jeremy or me then

Actually I'm fine on that. Since I lost weight I have become familiarsized with the equipment again.

[Choccy]

or me then

Maybe not, seeing as your rev seems to go around demolishing world famous landmark buildings in the process (in your updated avatar!)

P.S. hello Neil.... Welcome.

Like others have said you won't be disappointed starting out on a 1.5 B.

The rev 1 is slow and graceful and the rev II is fast but you can tame the twitchiness.

All are good fun.

[Jeepster]

Ya, can't beat a side by side comparison with someone who is properly familiarized with the equipment.

John,

You forgot the rest of the story ... "and, whose equipment kite is properly set up."

My first flight was on a properly set up vented B-series kite. The owner's comment was something along the lines of "are you sure you've never flown before?"

After my own kite arrived it was two weeks of trial and error before I achieved the same level of controllability. There really should be a little yellow book for beginners ... "Kite Setup for Dummies". Many new flyers are being talked into starting with the B-series, and although the DVD covers many topics well, it doesn't really address how the handles should feel in your hands. But, on the other hand, I'd of missed the excitement of chasing the kite around the sky if the setup would have been correct.

Cheers,

Tom

[Jonesey]

Maybe not, seeing as your rev seems to go around demolishing world famous landmark buildings in the process (in your updated avatar!)

Well spotted Choc ...That's me yielding to pressure from my son William 'make them all blow up daddy .....

Pleased to say contact has been made with Neil and a meet-up to take place shortly .... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

[LS Kite Stakes]

Just don't explain anything, let them get the full Sailor experience with no warning.........

[david ellison]

.... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

you might try the care in the community/ outreach charity / missionary work approach. Alternatively he responded well to Cornish pasties yesterday.

[sailor99]

Ooooo. What with your comments on Monkie's language skills, didn't we wake up snarky today Jonesey. What's wrong?

BTW. Are you sure you will be allowed to go out to play on the day you organize to meet this new chap? Or will you have to do the hoovering that day?

I didn't realise they were Cornish pasties. Had I done so I of course would not have eaten them, not wanting to deprive a 3rd world area of vital food.

[Baloo]

.... anybody got any ideas of how we explain/introduce/account for Jeremy with new members??

I always find a kind smile and a gentle shake of the head seems to work .