portlandflyer Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I actually like the older single color Rev 2s!! I know they don't match any other kites, but the single color is soooo clean!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hoath Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 NOT gonna happen ... he has heart failure every time I make that suggestion. I have an solution to that problem though ... I believe there are some nice gentleman on the other side of your pond who can print pretty much whatever you want onto a Rev OK Baz, here's what we do. We take a picture of my Dragon Rev flying and then get Los Hermanos to print that onto a Rev. Job done, i'm sure that Bazzer wouldn't mind at all!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzeb Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 OK Baz, here's what we do. We take a picture of my Dragon Rev flying and then get Los Hermanos to print that onto a Rev. Job done, i'm sure that Bazzer wouldn't mind at all!!!! Its a very good idea ........................and i will have to have a real good think again about it (I had had the same thought believe it or not) thing is it just wouldnt be the same would it................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 No it wouldn't be the same, but thats the only way you or I will ever have one. If he does complain just ask him to make one instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I have another product wish for the Rev factory ... an outdoor version of my indoor frame. That indoor rev must be sprinkled with some fairy dust or something because it just flies in nothing at all, seemingly against the laws of physics. I do find myself, from time to time, faced with such a lack of wind that my measly skill level will struggle even with my Zen. This afternoon was just such a day, so I gingerly put up my indoor on 5' lines in the shadow of my house and it was a joy to fly. I occasionally let it creep to where I could catch a feint sniff of wind and what a lovely machine it was. Perhaps a green version of the indoor race rods would be what the doctor ordered so that I could take it out of the wind shadow and not be afraid of a sudden gust exploding my poor rev. I know the leading edge and sail are not made for things tougher than a basketball court, but I have enough skill now to not be dragging it around. So pretty please can the Rev elves get to knocking out a vented Blast and an outdoor frame for my Indoor Rev to go along with the B2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_of_melnsct Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I have another product wish for the Rev factory ... an outdoor version of my indoor frame. That indoor rev must be sprinkled with some fairy dust or something because it just flies in nothing at all, seemingly against the laws of physics. I do find myself, from time to time, faced with such a lack of wind that my measly skill level will struggle even with my Zen. This afternoon was just such a day, so I gingerly put up my indoor on 5' lines in the shadow of my house and it was a joy to fly. I occasionally let it creep to where I could catch a feint sniff of wind and what a lovely machine it was. Perhaps a green version of the indoor race rods would be what the doctor ordered so that I could take it out of the wind shadow and not be afraid of a sudden gust exploding my poor rev. I know the leading edge and sail are not made for things tougher than a basketball court, but I have enough skill now to not be dragging it around. So pretty please can the Rev elves get to knocking out a vented Blast and an outdoor frame for my Indoor Rev to go along with the B2 the reason your indoor frame is in danger in the wind is mostly because there is no bridal to spread the load across the leading edge. That being said, bypassing the bridal on any rev will lower it's need for wind, but at a price of being twitchy. what length lines were you not flying your Zen on? Shorter lines are easier in lower wind that longer lines are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 the reason your indoor frame is in danger in the wind is mostly because there is no bridal to spread the load across the leading edge. That being said, bypassing the bridal on any rev will lower it's need for wind, but at a price of being twitchy. what length lines were you not flying your Zen on? Shorter lines are easier in lower wind that longer lines are. That's very interesting, I hadn't thought of that. How much of a difference does it make in terms of low wind ease of keeping it in the air as well as increased risk? I've read some old posts about people trying rev 2 without bridle and race frame for indoors and low wind outdoors, but never really saw any conclusions. I've taken my Zen down to 12' lines but I'm not skilled enough to get the snappynes into it for such a small window. Longer than that I've had it on 30, 50 and 80' lines. I've just switched to a race frame so will have to evaluate again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 My guess is the purpose would be to enhance the little bugger with the sail updates from the B series to make it smoother and prettier than it's present incarnation. Enhance the stability and precision, keep the speed, make it prettier and a general refresh all add up to a boost to sales for that model Perhaps some handles sized and shaped specifically for the size and 2 frames (race + something) and it sounds like a good idea to me. I don't get monster winds often enough to justify the cost of a Bazzer made Rev (Xtra Vent), but a factory made Rev II vented could make a welcome addition to my bag for those days. In addition to the sail cut refinements that come with the B, the B-2 is coming with Race rods and 11" handles with leaders, all recommended with 50# line in most reasonable conditions. Still in the mill, but it may also come with a 2nd frame set. Trick is, the Rev II has always been a fun little kite, but with the straighter leading edge and normal cut, it's been a bit LE dominant in flight style. The B-2 goal is to bring the B-Series performance to a smaller package... Enhanced precision and handling, but faster and even more agile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahofer Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I'm not sure what products these imply, but here are some of the silly inconveniences i encounter- I like to wrap my handles to the lines. Then they dont fit in the pouches on the individual kite sleeves. The supersonic sleeve is a little better. I don't have a compact bag to hold three kites (full,mid,std) plus handles, spare frame and a few lengths of line. Like most addicts, I fly sometimes until it's dark, then I wrap up my kites and the vertical spars slide out of the rolled up kite while I wind back to the staked handles. There is goose crap where they dropped, of course. The rods could be marked a little better, for similar reasons. Ever wonder whether bungee-tightening could be made easier? Those knots are a bear, and its hard to get the exact tightening you want. Personalized kites would probably be a big seller. How about offering matched sets (vents and STD) as a package? Personally, I think the super leading edge is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flt101 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 New to this site i didn't know where to say hi to everyone, But new for 2011, I would like to see the B2 added to the colorizer, twins are nice, but triplets would make for a cool progressive stack. Hi all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 New to this site i didn't know where to say hi to everyone, But new for 2011, I would like to see the B2 added to the colorizer, twins are nice, but triplets would make for a cool progressive stack. Hi all. WELCOME to the dark side! I don't really see any urgent need for the B2 to have it's own colorizer seeing as it has the same panel layout as the other B's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flt101 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 WELCOME to the dark side! I don't really see any urgent need for the B2 to have it's own colorizer seeing as it has the same panel layout as the other B's. John thanks for finishing my registeration this morning, i only suggested the b2 for a match to my zen and b pro colors, which probably wouldn't make a good progressive stack anyways, but 3 of a kind would still look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 John thanks for finishing my registeration this morning, i only suggested the b2 for a match to my zen and b pro colors, which probably wouldn't make a good progressive stack anyways, but 3 of a kind would still look cool. I don't thing they are really intend as stack kites, however they would look very nice together. I suspect the B2 won't be a pro at first, probably later if there is demand. These are my personal opinions, I am not a Revolution employee, thus I don't have the inside information to confirm anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I would love to see a redesign of the Rev Kite Bag. Something to hold 4 basic sails, 2 sets of handles, a stake, and maybe 2-3 linesets. I confess that I'm not a fan of the roll up bag. Personally, I thought Jynx's home made bag hits the nail on the head in a lot of ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 My 2011 is simple. Its not for a new sail, spars or handles - although they would all be welcome. It is simply to fly revs with friends old and new. Merry Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JynxKites Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I would love to see a redesign of the Rev Kite Bag. Something to hold 4 basic sails, 2 sets of handles, a stake, and maybe 2-3 linesets. I confess that I'm not a fan of the roll up bag. Personally, I thought Jynx's home made bag hits the nail on the head in a lot of ways. Thanks for the compliment! I've been sewing... and am donating a bag at TIKF and SPIKF! I love mine! Holds 6-8 kites, two or more line sets and handles, stakes, and a chilled bottle of wine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 My favorite is a simple bag with a zipper running the length. It has a big pouch, with zipper, on the outside. It has a shoulder strap and a handle to carry it. It can carry 8 to 10 REVs, lots of lines and handles. I picked mine up at a kite festival in the UK about 10 years back. It is still holding up very well. An alternate is to buy a snow ski bag and cut it down to length. During the spring sales they are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntaks Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 So what would you like to see comming out of Rev next year and what are you planning to get? If I had the money, I'd be getting one of the lady vampire revs. Beautiful art worked very well onto the kite... As for what would be nice from rev...lol Already discussed this on another thread... A bridle setup for a rev indoor to make it fly a bit more like a 1.5 on days that there isn't enough wind for an SUL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitecowboy Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Wouldn't a Rev 2 sized "B" series be a contradiction of intent??!! If the Rev 2 design is for speed, not precision, then what is the purpose of trying to make them more precise?? Aren't there enough choices in the 1.5 series to keep us happy?? I happen to like the differences in the designs, use the right kite to fill the daily need!! IMHO!! Imho just never mind I'm really looking forward to the B2 finally match up with my 1.5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted December 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 As for what would be nice from rev...lol Already discussed this on another thread... A bridle setup for a rev indoor to make it fly a bit more like a 1.5 on days that there isn't enough wind for an SUL. I said frame, you said bridle ..... By my count, the popular requests other than the B2 (which I'm looking forward to) are the vented Blast and the outdoor Indoor Rev I know vented Blasts have been made, so that shouldn't be hard to do and I would absolutely buy one. Hopefully there are enough ideas here to keep the Revolution elves busy in the new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Shook Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) what they said Yep - good health to Ben, and Lolly and Marissa and Joe and David too! Just want more time to fly with friends! Edited December 20, 2010 by Cath Shook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzer Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) Two weeks holiday in the sun with Palm trees and lots of Rum! "Merry Christmas everybody from the sewing Elf" Bazzer Edited December 20, 2010 by Bazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlandflyer Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Steven - I think Scott was saying that adding a bridle to an Indoor would make it safer to fly outdoors! The problem is the LE of the Indoor is longer than a 1.5 standard bridle allows, you would have to make your own or ....? Changing frames leaves you with the same problem, forces are not spread out equally over the entire length!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Happy Holidays Bazzer, you deserve a brief break from the sewing action. upon your return though kind sir, I'd think I'd like to try on/get in line for a B-series pro, rev2 sized SUL leading edge sleeve & a 3 piece leading edge tube race frame members all around hot fade/black center as a color scheme + an extra 4 wrap frame, 3 piece leading edge + a set of stacking lines for a progressive stack (with the matching 1.5 SUL & a zen already in my possession) before wildwood (in may) as a delivery schedule, possibly? Wink! wink! ordering thru Weider, Barbara is picking up the tab, neither of 'em knows a darn thing about this project yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Aye, B-2 probably won't be made in Pro... It'd be about the same price as a regular Pro since it's roughly the same labor on Bazzer's end, very few would pay what it'd cost. As for the coloring, aye... It's a bit redundant to add it to the colorizer, but looking at the regular B-Series color format, it'd be simple to use the existing colorizer to the same end, same with the Zen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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