REVflyer

many manufacturers offer frames or materials which are compatible, none compare to these originals, good luck in your search

I'm thinking,... it might be only from the used market, discontinued in the discount rack or all three items have reached an evolution into something else entirely, you'll have to chase retail merchants and tell no one if successful weight of a Race (black) is equal to a 2 wrap professional frame, but with the strength of 3 wraps green race has an overcoating to make 'em stronger still, a guy Rich Comras (unfortunately now deceased) complained that black race tubes broke under water, so Ben D'antonio offered a solution,... Green Race I think it's kevlar paint or some high-tech solution. lastly, original Diamonds are very delicate tubes designed for no wind, SUL kites even indoor models. These are very expensive and sought after. When they break (and they will!) you make "travel frames" out of the pieces. none of these tubes will be less than 25 USD each, some closer to 40,.... ifs you can find them at all. Stiffness, flex response, weight, performance,..... you get what you pay for, but alas no longer offered in their original "flavors"

consider a travel frame, the pieces are "half-sized" and the problems are gone,... assembly is just electrical tape of vinyl to hold the two halves together, making three spars when needed. I'd also recommend framing with the ferules on the outside two pieces, instead of the center spar. It breaks down shorter ! (and now fits into an Orvis Carry-on case for fishing poles, holds a dozen kites and accessories. https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/orvis-safe-passage-carry-it-all-travel-case?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=Shop%7CGeneric%7CAllProducts%7CHigh%7CSSCCatchAll&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItrHv5Mi07QIVqeiGCh1HLgG6EAQYBCABEgIjsvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

ha, just saw this Monkey..... Ha, whole bag, not quite. I carry about a dozen kites minimum (in the Orvis Full sized Carry-on padded case). It is like a wallet or a cell phone, handy always! Then there's another bag of excessively sized quads that don't fit or make the cut to the "A" bag. Mini-Ryvs? A case for 4 stacks, hard-sider, plastic waffle board lined and Brianne's sewing expertise to turn it into a double sided case. I can carry half of it or all. each stack is six kites, three are 42 inch LE baby revs by Harold Ames, the last is a 36 inch set by Paul Dugard,... they need 25-40 mph to take off and are a hoot hiding by a structure whilst flying THEM out into that gale. Each half case holds two stacks of six kites if I could only have one kite though it would have to be a Zen,... I've abused four of 'em to valueless rags since introduction of that model. Gust buster, no wind long line super reliable demo kite, superb teaching aide, defines the words "slow and graceful" in flight dynamics (for example; axels are timed with sun dials!) Walking on foot to my local park, at least 14 kites accompany me, together with a dozen sets of handles, lunch (my Barbara is queen of sandwiches!). I tow a wagon, can't imagine why anyone would try to carry the kite supplies on their back only.

Two Bazzers and Five Shook for me,....... 1. Zen 2. AuA indoor 3. SUL B-Pro full sail (or Phoenix Ashe) 4. 40% Shook 5. 75% Shook 6. B-2 Shook (called the CR2, only in a 75%) 7. a 135% Shook

a single vent is commonly referred to as a "mid-vent", it would fit nicely in between your current quiver of existing kites for wind range.

maybe a stack (a 12 pack) of Rev ones? Can't imagine using flying lines that thick for one kite, but sometimes you work what's available

my preference is 50#/65 feet if flailing around on a full sail on a mesh kite that six foot leading edge size I've used 50#/100 foot and 100#/120's my heaviest lines are 175# sky bond/120's

mine are mirrored as a left and right piece/tube, I choose to put the springs facing inside the frame

call Lolly,

the two kites are different overall sizes, so the spars are not interchangeable between these 3 models

Reflex tech is simply a space between the sail and the frame, to increase the glide and add a more aerodynamic 3/d curve into the sail as opposed to OVER the leading edge. Imagine the difference between a dinner plate and a frisbee, if you kicked both off of a table?,... one would fall immediately and the other would glide some distance as it penetrates the wind more effectively. An example,... Bazzer's new design (Phoenix) has a great "falling leaf trick" almost given away free because the glide has been removed by the attachment method of the end-caps on the top of the down spars at the back of the sail. The Supersonic has a pronounced curvature OVER the leading edge. It will dead launch and have a better glide by comparison. The Reflex is just more of that 3 dimensional airflow action, but you can do the same type of thing with altering the knot placement for tensioning the sail (such that they are rotated underneath the leading edge and the down-spar connection at that point) on a B-Series or a Rev old-style. You restrict that end-cap's movement with an additional bridle leg, so it can NOT wiggle regardless of pilot flailing or impacts with Mother Earth. A good glide should allow you to throw the kite parallel with the ground for some measurable distance, just like a frisbee. You can practice w/o the strings affixed and compare the glide of different models. how does it come from the factory and how could it be improved by the pilot's own individual efforts? You can't have a great falling leaf available if your kite will throw & catch effortlessly, they are incompatible techniques, pushing one extreme eliminates the other eventually. My hand fits in-between the sail and the frame on almost every rev shaped kite I own, from high winders to indoor models, not touching either side.

because the wind can blow for a longer amount of time on the sail when the kite is laid out on it's side inverted? the weight of the leading can "drag" the kite along for the ride (the glide) Upright hover is the least effective orientational use of the airstream

you'd need probably both to cover their very different wind ranges, heck there might even be a kite in-between these two I don't have the spider but do own an XX

if I could one keep one kite it would be a Zen (w/those original diamond spars all the way around).