fortflyer Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I flew Race Rods in my vented last weekend with FortFlyer in 12-18ish. I think by the time it gets to be 15+ I prefer 4-wraps to the Race Rods. I find it useful to have more weight in the kite in those kinds of winds plus the 4-wraps are stiffer and tougher. There is no way I'd want to fly the Race Rods in 20+, even if they could take it. I suppose I could leave the Race Rods in the verticals and just go with the 4-wrap leading edge too since the leading edge seems to take the brunt of the force.I think FortFlyer agreed we were starting to hit the upper range for the Race Rods in terms of precision. --Lee Hit the nail right on the head, when the wing tips seem like they will be touching soon its time to upgrade lol At 15+ the kite just seems bow a bit too much making it want to roll a bit to easy therefor making it more difficult to keep steady, like the SLE being too stiff there is also a point when its also too limber. Sweet Rods Though, the day before Lee came down we had very little wind and I was flying the same vented with Race Rods along side of SUL's in 2-5 mph and keeping up very easy. Maybe Ben can come up with a Turbo Race Rod for 15+ lighter than a 3 with the stiffness of a 4 that would be sweet for just the response alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 i dont see the need to use them in winds highr then 8 mph myself but thats me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 i dont see the need to use them in winds highr then 8 mph myself but thats me Ant the snapback response of the Race Rod is amazing as you know up to 10 mph to me there is no comparison, from 5-12 mph it becomes the vented dream frame, but as with all of the frames it comes to a point where they get too noodley I'm sure they would make it to 20 but I'm not going to sacrifice a set to see I'm just thinking the possibilities of Race's Big Brother I asked a million questions about these things and it took me getting a set to get my answers, I'm thinking thats probably going to be the case for most, defiantly worth getting where you take them to will have to be personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have learned that they can break even in light wind! If a dog gets a hold of them, it's all over!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 We use the race spars in more than 8mph... In our vented kites, up to about 16 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Race spars swim fine but they don't surf well at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I beg to differ, I was submerging my B-Series with Race Rods inside of waves last weekend, then walking back quickly to keep it upright while the waves broke... Launching out of the water when it cleared the surface. They're tough, and surf just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I beg to differ, I was submerging my B-Series with Race Rods inside of waves last weekend, then walking back quickly to keep it upright while the waves broke... Launching out of the water when it cleared the surface. They're tough, and surf just fine. I am sure YOU could do that all day long. Now for the mortals out there who just might, sometimes let the wave catch your kite, there is still not a spar that will stand up to it. I did, it broke, I replaced it. Lesson learned. John I hope you know this is a total compliment to your skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 In an upcoming video, there will be footage of the one time I accidentally landed my kite in front of the wave, instead of on top and into it. CRUNCH! Looks horribly fatal, although nothing actually broke. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldenMiller Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 What's the video called? John Barresi Bloopers? I don't know that anyone will believe it. I for one will think it's all staged. -Alden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 I'd like to see a rev team, iQuad, or John B. bloopers video! Even the pro's make mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 That'd be pretty funny... We'll keep it on the "to do" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Is there any more news on this? Have race rods been made for any kite other than the Rev 1.5 & the Rev Indoor??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Is there any more news on this? Have race rods been made for any kite other than the Rev 1.5 & the Rev Indoor??? There has been no mention yet about a REV II version. Ben mentioned somewhere on this forum that a REV I version is NOT in the planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i would like to see a rev 2 set that would be real nice.. a rev 2 for lighter winds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Trejo Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 I have heard that Race Rods will eventually be available for the Rev II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburka Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 I asked Ben about getting a race frame for a II at Cape Fear last month, but haven't heard anything back from him about them yet...then again, he's had a rather hectic schedule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mditty Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 These are the rods that come in the new 20th anniversary kites. Haven't flown it yet but the reviews make me excited to give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayNunes Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Hey folks.. I snapped my Race rods the Other Day.. Broke the Leading edge in two places.. oops.. Right where the Vert Rods meet the Leading Edge.. I wore out the rod.. then Snap!!! Both Places at once.. Totally my Fault.. Here is why Most flyers I talked to about this change thier rods for wind Conditions.. I was just changing Kites so I never Moved the rod for Months of flying.. If you are like me.. Have a Look at the Leading edge to see of there is Wearing on those two places.. I am going to move my new Rods around my Kite from now on.. I think that will solve my problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bri Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I did the same thing last weekend.Broke in the same place that youve discribed in a dive stop.Seemed a little odd at the time,but it wasnt over a sweet 7mph...odd BRIAN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayNunes Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I did the same thing last weekend.Broke in the same place that youve discribed in a dive stop.Seemed a little odd at the time,but it wasnt over a sweet 7mph...oddBRIAN... Check the side that is not broken for Wear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bri Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Wish i could,but. zee race rodz,swimz, with zee fishez . I binned it.Thanks for the info though.I will check my others. Have a kewl weekend BRIAN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWayne Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I got to try out my new race rods this evening. I put 'em in a full sail on a 50# line set. The kite was really racy in 5 mph winds. They seem to be a bit snappier. More responsive. I like 'em already. I'm sure I'll like 'em even more after I get to spend more time with 'em.. Denny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I love my 50# lines in the right wind, can't get any more connected to the kite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Can I just say how much I LOVE my Race Rods!?!?! What a difference!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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