sailor99 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 So dean right on both counts then - Aerochic is a chic Aerochick? (BTW, no hyphen in 'double check' ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Can't I be a Chic Chick??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor99 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Can't I be a Chic Chick??? Only if you use more brake when flying in lightwind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Only if you use more brake when flying in lightwind. Hehehehehe! Okayyyyyy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesey Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Only if you use more brake when flying in lightwind. Shouldn't there be a gap between in light and wind old chap? I love pedantic Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor99 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Shouldn't there be a gap between in light and wind old chap?I love pedantic Thursday Presumably you meant "in between" rather than "between in"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I love pedantic Thursday Jonesey, Back for a postprandial perusal of the public pedantic party. Expected a passel of particularly phenomenal points, but found just pedestrian persuasions. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 (BTW, no hyphen in 'double check' ) what can I say ...the weather is breeches, ... shorts ..., slacks ... oh yes, the weather is pants today and I can't concentrating very well. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Can't I be a Chic Chick??? Well, old gal, you most certainly can be ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Well, old gal, you most certainly can be ... Old Gal!?! Not yet kiddo!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean750 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sorry for getting the Chick thing started. I meant to stop with the C, but apparently.... Well hell, I don't know what to say to explain it. Sophisticated woman who's a child at heart? Maybe thats what my middle finger meant when it hit the K Now that I'm working full time I hope my flying ability isn't degrading like my typoing skills Dean Thanks for correcting my typo with a typo so I didn't feel so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Sorry for getting the Chick thing started. I meant to stop with the C, but apparently.... Well hell, I don't know what to say to explain it. Sophisticated woman who's a child at heart? Maybe thats what my middle finger meant when it hit the K No harm no foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squarehead666 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 The old hand by the earole jobby is a hard thing to break, Give 'em a power-kite to play with.....They either get out of the habit or wind up like Van-Gogh! I'm interested in your comments regarding using 50lb lines for increased low-wind performance.....I'm looking at getting a single Rev as a low-wind alternative to my power-kites (sub 10mph wind). My online supplier offers 90lb lines (in 80' and 120') and 150lb line (80'), I was assuming that the 90lb 80' lines were my best bet, but now I'm wondering if I should seek out something lighter? TIA & All the best Andy S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 my lightest wind outdoor set-up of commercially available products is on either the Zen (still learning it's uniqueness, it likes longer lines, slow & graceful techniques) or a Pro SUL 1.5 (lots of mileage on this size, it's a flailer's dream ride in my opinion). Long lines in no wind cries out for LPG 50#, . . . .... if everyone nearby agrees to use them. All the other (shorter) sets are 90# and as we approach a throw & catchable length of flying lines, the sleeving vanishes, . . . .... as well as those hog-ring styled handles. If it's a dead calm it's still the pro SUL and I'm on my best comfort level with experience in these conditions. I've got a big ole $%&*!?-eating grin on my face, in fact I secretly prayed for a dead-calm all weekend long, HONEST! My newest Pro Bazzer Weapon sports a french bridle, (commercially available ever, hopefully?) SS 2P straight spines for down spars (equates to indoor Rev tubes for weight/strength/flex) and I had 'em laying around the house already FREE. 16 inch magic sticks, built from point 125 carbon tubes, (reinforcing those skinny down spars), a Zen leading edge (very durable, HEY! I flail!) 17 inch gapped titanium handles rigged as no-snags with a lesser, moved more forward bend and very long foam grips crafted by Glenn Hanyes. This set-up features an outstanding glide ratio with the leading edge facing down, (probably 3 to one, even if you release the handles entirely out in front of you). I can roll it up landing and unroll reliably taking off, it flips inside out easily and does beautifully flat axels, i find it difficult to snag a flying line and can still jerk it around to music regardless of the wind activity/direction. I've got at least 65 feet of line(LPG 90#) if I'm practicing, but only fifty feet if I'm showing off for the public at something official. Then the kite effortlessly returns to my hand without any movement of my feet and I can almost always throw it all the way out to the end of the lines unless it's directly upwind, then you need more mass, (like those SLE sticks we never find a use for). It's a long enough length for some time to pass after each hand technique. Slow enough for folks to actually appreciate and marvel on one of the Rev's best tricks. Not many kites can be reliably caught and thrown back out again without ever touching the ground. At the end of each throw I already have both handles in my "weaker" hand. Both handles are retained in the thumbs forward position, resting between a pinky finger or directly next to each other = a perfect inverted paste (and hover) set-up position after the strings fetch-up tight. You don't even have to move, it just locks upside-down at the end of the lines all by itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone in Shoe Bob Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I'm with Watty on this one I love my Sedgewick with two wrap but for a 1.5 I bought this a one piece printed sail with race rods. I haven't done a direct comparison between the two, as to which flies in the lower wind and to be honest I'm not really sure I care that much. Although they were both bought and sparred for low wind conditions they handle very differently. The printed Rev gives me the 1.5 feel in wind you can barely feel on you skin whilst the Sedgewick give me a much more laid back "don't care if I do, don't care if I don't" Sunday afternoon fly. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzer Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Any low wind flying requires some weight in the leading edge. The same weight is needed to throw around and use gravity when turning. If you get to the point where the leading edge is to light it would be like having a glider without weight in the nose. The Zen does have that right mix. That is why it does not have an ultra light leading edge material.Tried it didn't like it. Paul has a flying style is unique to him and few others.All Valid. The majority of people want to continue flying in lower winds with the same set up in the handles that they are used to. Does it fly exactly like a 1.5...well no. Does it make flying easier in low wind. Yes. Does it give positive feed back through your hands when flying. Yes. It does what it says on the can(if it came in a can) It will allow the average flyer to fly in wind speeds they could not fly in before. It allows teams to do demonstrations when normally they would be sat there frustrated and embarrassed. Bazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I was surprised to find that the Zen is by FAR the heaviest Rev that I own, but I can certainly feel the difference in the limited test conditions I've had for it. Prior to the Zen, my low wind setup was a 1.5 B-series with full race frame which comes in at 170g. While I understand the Zen is bigger and has longer spars, I was surprised at the tank like leading edge and the 249g total weight - a bit more than a 46% increase in weight. I'm waiting until I can get conditions where I can fly the 1.5 and Zen against each other - ideally when I'm starting to struggle on the 1.5 B. We get gusts where I fly so I need the wind to get well into the 0-6 mph range for fear of a gust over-stressing my Zen. I don't have a Pro, but maybe the Zen flies better thanks to a sprinkling of Bazzer dust. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzer Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I was surprised to find that the Zen is by FAR the heaviest Rev that I own, but I can certainly feel the difference in the limited test conditions I've had for it. Prior to the Zen, my low wind setup was a 1.5 B-series with full race frame which comes in at 170g. While I understand the Zen is bigger and has longer spars, I was surprised at the tank like leading edge and the 249g total weight - a bit more than a 46% increase in weight. I'm waiting until I can get conditions where I can fly the 1.5 and Zen against each other - ideally when I'm starting to struggle on the 1.5 B. We get gusts where I fly so I need the wind to get well into the 0-6 mph range for fear of a gust over-stressing my Zen. I don't have a Pro, but maybe the Zen flies better thanks to a sprinkling of Bazzer dust. Steven It sounds like you are about to do wing loading equations Stephen! Don't make me break out the SLE and beat you with it! LOL Anyway the equations won't help. You are missing three fractal elements! Magic sprinkles ...........ABRA 03 Rainbows ..................Spectrainium Unicorn hairs in the core of the carbon..................... UNI3C ....as it appears on the periodic table(please note the 3 due to the number of strands) Bazzer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillLamm Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 the Zen is a little bigger than the 1.5 (if I remember correctly) so that would count for some of the weight and that against the bigger sail area would make for more lift plus more LE weight to throw around only 3 unicorn hairs?!?! they must be getting expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 the Zen is a little bigger than the 1.5 (if I remember correctly) .... Slightly! It is the same size as the REV I in that it uses the same rod lengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Don't make me break out the SLE and beat you with it! Don't make be break into Dragon requests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzer Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Don't make be break into Dragon requests Touche' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Touche' Dragons!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 A FULL bodied dragon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 wOw, I NEED a Dragon, love yours Bazzer however I NEED one of those full bodied ones. As far as Revs for light wind go. Well I didnt think I could beat a Sedgwick with Race Rods, then I got hold of that Watty protoytype, light weight Rev 2 with Race Rods, WOW SO MUCH FUN. Now I am spoilt and have a Zen, thanks Bazzer, a new love in my life. Must admit I now look out the window wishing for light winds on my Days off. Have found it seems to like longer lines though, where I like the 50ft ones on the Sedgwick. However I do have another BIG love in my life. Quite a bit more noisy than a kite. Waiting to get it home then I will post a picture of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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