fortflyer Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I recently tried kite staking with 100" lines and a standard stake (golf ball top) well it worked OK for a bit I think I'm missing something though, do you use a screw in style stake ? and I'm sure you use longer lines what would you suggest ? Thanks in Advance, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I recently tried kite staking with 100" lines and a standard stake (golf ball top)well it worked OK for a bit I think I'm missing something though, do you use a screw in style stake ? and I'm sure you use longer lines what would you suggest ? Thanks in Advance, Jim I was never good at it. I kept clobbering myself with the REV. I was using a dog stake which screws in to the ground. Lines I think were 100ft. John Barresi is the absolute pro on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Jim, here's a past posting on the subject... http://kitelife.com/forum/index.php?showto...amp;hl=dogstake I do use a dog stake (or screw), but it has diamond-polished ceramic rings attached to it through which the lines run. The link above should provide a little more info on this. As for line length, just remember... Whatever you fly with is "cut" in half, since it doubles back to you through the stake. I generally prefer 120' lines, which end up giving me roughly 60' of fly line from stake to kite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbkite12 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I was watching one of John B. videos and was wondering how you were flying and holding the kite. At first i thought some one else was flying. Very clever ideas.. When the kite top is towards you are the controls reversed. right is left and left is right. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 True, unless you switch the handles. Then, you look at the back of the kite, and pretend it's the front. Still weird the first few times, but the controls are normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Well looks like yet again I will be constructing another flying apparatus LOL gotta love it. Now I know why I put a "Revolution Addiction" in Japanese lettering appliqué on my ultralight, its so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I do use a dog stake (or screw), but it has diamond-polished ceramic rings attached to it through which the lines run. Sounds fancy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Here are a couple photos of John's stake from Kite Party 2006: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Thanks Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 well john i will say seeing you do it in person is much better then watching the video im just glad to say i was one of the few to see it live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitezen Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Much better than the video, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 You should have seen his Little Red Riding Hood at WSIKF (2 years ago i think). It was amazing! That was by far my favorite ballet I have ever seen! My G-ma asks him to do it again every time she sees him (once a year at WSIKF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodyspecial Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Wow, that little modded caribiner looks like it has fishing rod hoops on it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yep, with diamond-polished ceramic rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Foster Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Notice that the fishing rod tips are welded to the "V" shaped rod. The ring and wrapped connector on the screw-in dog stake look to be is welded closed. Also, the connector used to connect the "V" shaped rod to the dog stake ring is a small version of what is used for safety chains on a trailer. It screws closed. All in all, a very strong and simple set-up. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mditty Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Where can I get these materials? I would love to give it a try some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Where can I get these materials? I would love to give it a try some time. I just make one. Just like Johns. Dog stake at the pet store. U bolt at the hardware store. Rod tips at the bait shop. I haven't used it yet but it looks great. The rod tips fit very snug over the U bolt ends and after forceing them on they spread a bit and screwed on the rest of the way leaving no need to glue or weld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Just a recommendation, you'll probably want to weld or glue them... There is quite a bit of torque on the stake, more than you'd see flying normally. Any chance of a photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Just a recommendation, you'll probably want to weld or glue them... There is quite a bit of torque on the stake, more than you'd see flying normally. Any chance of a photo? Thanks John. I am sure you are totaly correct. It just looked so good this way, I figured I would use it like this till it broke then glue it. No big deal when you’re not in competitions and I am just doing it for FUN. You of course need it rock solid every time. I will try to get a picture tomorrow and post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 MrDenny, what did it cost to build. Approximately. I plan on trying the dog staking when I've got my rev but not before i have actually learn to fly the thing. So would be good to know the cost we can expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I'm eager to see the pic, so I can go build one. Ever since I saw John B's Little Red Riding Hood, I wanted to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I'm eager to see the pic, so I can go build one. Ever since I saw John B's Little Red Riding Hood, I wanted to try it. Look at the 8th post on this string Watty. I went to take a pic of mine today and my digital camera says no battery with a new battery in it. Zee, Not much at all, The dogsteak was around $10 and that is the major part. I don't even remember what the rest cost which means not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 See I did make one. A friend had his camera at work last night so we took these. Wow was he confused when he saw this thing. If you look close you can see that by screwing the tips on it actually stretched the metal a bit which I hope holds it together a bit longer. I plan to take it to St Augustine this weekend to let some pros try it out show me the fine points.. (Hear that Jay and Chef) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 WOW I could dogstake my powerblast 2-4 on that, nice job let us know how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mditty Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I was just wondering if dog staking caused extra wear on the kite strings. I've had the same set of quad lines for about 4 years now and I was unsure if the increased friction between the strings and surface cause the strings to wear faster. I would appreciate any advice possible from John or anyone experienced at dog staking. Thanks, McKenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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