New to forums and Rev's

[sthazza]

Hi gang,

Im new to the forum so thought I would introduce myself and ask a question (or maybe two). My name is James and I'm from Hertfordshire in the UK. I've flown kites as a kid (29 now) and have been flying sports kites (deltas) on and off for the last 10 years ish. I've never really got into the whole pulling off stunts thing but have really enjoyed just basically messing around and doing freestyle stuff. To give you an idea my current collection includes a Prism Quantum and Flashlight, a Flexifoil Psycho and Stacker 6 plus a few others. I have recently been contemplating getting a more advanced delta to fly but have become a little disillusioned with what I can do with them other than flat out speed.

I went to Dunstable Downs yesterday, I've been lots of times before including the festivals, and was intrigued by a group who were flying Rev's. There were two reasons it fascinated me, one was because the wind was so light, I was having trouble getting the flashlight up which is ultralight, yet the revs were flying almost the whole time I was there, and secondly because the amount of control and variation of moves which can be made by just moving the handles slightly was fantastic. I sat down and had some lunch in my little shelter with the intention of going over to the group (who were dong some synchro flying if this was you) but when I turned round they had gone.

I am basically really interested in having a go and so would like some advice as to what would be the best rev for me to get, think I will be able to pick up the basics fairly quickly with my experience and no disrespect but there was a young lad who could only have been 7 or 8 who was doing pretty well so I would hope I would be ok. Obviously I dont want to grow out of the kite too quickly and I may barking up the wrong tree but I was thinking maybe something I could get different rods for so as it would be more versatile to different conditions etc.

All help is much appreciated, thanks in advance,

James

[Madquad]

Welcome Sthazza to the dark side,

Search the forum for your answers :

http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?showforum=27

Answers enough.....

Good luck and have fun !!

Bye

[sailor99]

I suspect you were watching one of our UK teams, flying squad, and their new ringger, Luca (sp). Next time you are up at funstable you should say hello. I am sure they would be only too pleased to give you a go and to offer advice. Ask for either Bob, Simon, stephen, Gary, hezz,........

Have a look at a B series as a place to start IMHO. For dunstable I would go with the vented personally. You get two frame sets with it. Akternatively maybe a semi-vented b series with a "race frame" would offer a pretty wide wind range One of the DD guys or gals will let you try one I am sure

Edited May 25, 2009 by Sailor99

[sthazza]

Sorry to sound stupid, I assume you are talking about a 1.5 Baressi Series, havent quite got my head round all the models yet,

James

[Simon]

Sorry to sound stupid, I assume you are talking about a 1.5 Baressi Series, havent quite got my head round all the models yet,

James

Hi James,

Green Quechua by any chance?

Yes correct kite, I think locally Kiteworld is your nearest dealer.

As for the boy, it was Daniel and he's 6. The wind was zero most of the day, and the beer tent was calling to GT (Joke on here, you'll pic it up soon enough!)

Couple of festivals coming up soon, Exemouth this weekend, Then Basingstoke (with Smashy & Nicey), Blackheath, the in July Dunstable has its own festival.

Bob, Keith, Gary the rev, Woody, Chris & Andy might be up there this weekend. As with most flyers they will answer most questions.

[sthazza]

Close, the green quecha was next to me, flying a flexifoil sting as I recall. As you would have looked down the slope I was to the right in a purple shelter, flying a purple and white Prism Flashlight (when I could).

I went a bit higher on the age but thats encouraged me even more now, your right about the wind it was non-existent most of the time but it was a scorcher and nice to be out.

If I can get down there I will, the festival is marked in the diary already,

James

[Baloo]

Hi James,

Welcome. If you like a bit of fun JB is raffling a full sail and a vented B series on Kitelife forum. If you search on here he put a link to it.

Worth a go, you never know, you might win, then you would be set up well for Revs.

[play365]

Sorry to sound stupid, I assume you are talking about a 1.5 Baressi Series, havent quite got my head round all the models yet,

James

Yes that was us The Flying Squad and that small chap was infact Daniel Hoath (his dad flys revs sometimes) you should have come over and said hello

Edited May 26, 2009 by play365

[Simon]

Yes that was us The Flying Squad and that small chap was intact Daniel Hoath (his dad he revs sometimes) you should have come over and said hello

Glad to hear Daniel was intact, always worry when he falls apart

[sailor99]

[sthazza]

Thanks for all the answers thus far. I've been reading through all the pinned posts and having a general look around, think I've started to get my head around the sails and rods available. Im going to go out on a limb here and see what you lot think of this as a starting point, please let me know if I've got it completely wrong.

I'm thinking of going for a B series vented, which comes with the 3 and 4 wrap frames which allow for 3 different setups. Any B series/1.5 rods would fit the sail, I think, so for the lower end of the wind range in the short term I was thinking a set of race rods. Further down the line I could then go for different sails (standard/mid vent) and the remaining rods sets.

Please dont think I'm trying to run before I can walk, this would all be over a length of time but I'm just trying to make a sound financial decision, but get the best range of winds in the mean time, with the rods being well priced I figured I could kit the vented out with a all the sets of rods as I go along and then look at whether it may even be best just to buy the standard sail standalone later on.

Thanks again for the advice,

James

[andelscott]

I'm thinking of going for a B series vented, which comes with the 3 and 4 wrap frames which allow for 3 different setups. Any B series/1.5 rods would fit the sail, I think, so for the lower end of the wind range in the short term I was thinking a set of race rods. Further down the line I could then go for different sails (standard/mid vent) and the remaining rods sets.

Hi James

Well you did say you were at Dunstable on Sunday and therein lies the issue. There was very little wind and I can guarantee that vented would not have flown reliably. I'd set up my 'B' series full sail kite with the 2 wrap rods, but decided not to put the lines out until the wind picked up....

I'd suggest full sail and vented 'B' options as a start (if you can afford both) - this will cover the wind ranges you're likely to see *most* of the time. But there will be days when the wind is strong and The Flying Squad will be flying "tea bags" - sails with many holes cut to decrease the pull and increase control - and days (like Sunday) when it is a bit light for us mere mortals. I did get the vented 'B' first (also had a regular SLE in full sail), but you may also notice the pull on your wallet to get a matching set fairly soon!

..anyway do head over and say 'hello' next time.

[Baloo]

A vented B set + Race rods would be good. You still need a reasonable wind though.

A full sail B might be your better choice. However there are always going to be those awkward Days when neither of the set ups would suit.

With the full sail and both rods in the leading edge you should be good up to about 20mph, down to whatever you can manage with just the 2 wrap set.

Dont forget you will need at least one lineset as well.

Still recon it is worth risking at least one ticket in that JB raffle.

Best of luck, if you can catch the guys at Dunstable you are WELL on the way. Always best to try B4 you buy. I challenge you to walk away from them without having a go on at least one set of handles :-)

[beach]

James this is Ben from Revolution and I just want to welcome you to the Family, all the rest the Family will direct you

but never hesitate to ask me anything...... Ben

[sthazza]

Cool, thanks

[Hezz]

Hi James, I was one of the Flying Squad up there on Sunday, next time you see us please come over and say hi! We're a friendly bunch

(Although most of us will be either be in Portugal, or Exeter this weekend coming, then Basingstoke & Blackheath so you might not see us there for a while!)

The secret to low wind flying is ultra-light kit, we were flying the ultra light team kites with either race rods or 2-wrap, and 50lb lines. The other secret to low-wind flying is knowing when to give up and go for beer There really was not a lot of it around on Sunday!! (wind, not beer! hehe)

But you should definitely go on Sunday 19th July for the Dunstable Downs Kite Festival!

Hezz

Edited May 28, 2009 by Hezz

[Felix]

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The secret to low wind flying is ultra-light kit, we were flying the ultra light team kites with either race rods or 3-wrap, and 50lb lines.

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The secret to low wind flying may be a bit more involved than 'ultra-light kit' <grins>

The air may not be moving horizontally, it may be rising and this can be quite forcible and 'ultra-light kit' may be inadequate. If the air is rising this will be a local effect and the air drawn in may come from any point of the compass.

The best place to position the kite may then switch from any point on the compass in the centre of the directional window to as near vertical as you can maintain in order to accommodate changes in direction. It is very much a matter of 'feel'. It may very well not be possible to perform team manoeuvres with a large number of fliers in these conditions but if you are fortunate to be flying with skilled pilots it can be fantastic to improvise and 'ride the waves'. (watch the seagulls...)

Felix

[Choccy]

It may very well not be possible to perform team manoeuvres with a large number of fliers in these conditions

but if you are fortunate to be flying with skilled pilots it can be fantastic to improvise and 'ride the waves'. (watch the seagulls...)

Simon explained this was normal to drop off flyers during lighter wind conditions,

eg Berck, your son sat and watched you riding the waves

[play365]

Hi James, I was one of the Flying Squad up there on Sunday, next time you see us please come over and say hi! We're a friendly bunch

(Although most of us will be either be in Portugal, or Exeter this weekend coming, then Basingstoke & Blackheath so you might not see us there for a while!)

The secret to low wind flying is ultra-light kit, we were flying the ultra light team kites with either race rods or 3-wrap, and 50lb lines. The other secret to low-wind flying is knowing when to give up and go for beer There really was not a lot of it around on Sunday!! (wind, not beer! hehe)

But you should definitely go on Sunday 19th July for the Dunstable Downs Kite Festival!

Hezz

Hezz that would be 2 wrap ( Pro use ) spars lol

[Hezz]

Hezz that would be 2 wrap ( Pro use ) spars lol

LOL Gary, never known to make a typo!

I thought I was using the 3-wrap at the weekend, might explain a few things then!! (I'm sure the 2-wrap is still inside my B-Series - better rescue it before Portugal this weekend!

Hezz

[Stone in Shoe Bob]

I thought I was using the 3-wrap at the weekend, might explain a few things then!! (I'm sure the 2-wrap is still inside my B-Series - better rescue it before Portugal this weekend! wub.gif

Of course if you forget you could always do a Gary and put out a call for help from inside the beer tent.

[play365]

Of course if you forget you could always do a Gary and put out a call for help from inside the beer tent.

Sorry to disappoint you Bob but no beer tent in Moledo !! just a very nice pool side and bar

[sailor99]

Nice pool, but I see you made all the women and children run away Gary

[play365]

Nice pool, but I see you made all the women and children run away Gary

Yep that's true :lol:

[Felix]

Simon explained this was normal to drop off flyers during lighter wind conditions,

eg Berck, your son sat and watched you riding the waves

I cannot remember exactly. Did we fly six on Saturday and eight on Sunday?

I was actually referring to 'much' lighter conditions but agree with Simon that it is generally sensible to fly a smaller team in light wind.

Felix

[sthazza]

Well, just checked back in.

Just checked in I hear you cry, yeah it's been a while, tbh I didn't realise how long until I looked at the post date.

Injury recovery, new job, getting married and now a baby on the way have all played havoc with both my time and my wallet.

But enough of that, I'm out the other side fighting and with my new family lifestyle looming I'm taking stock and getting things in order that I want to do instead of just thinking I'll get round to them at some point.

First off thank you to anyone who has replied on this thread, all great advice and I'm checking out all the other buying a first rev threads to try and work out what to go for.

I think it will have to just be one rev for now so it's going to be a tough choice, in addition to anything already mentioned, would the B2 come into the equation or does the increase in speed rule them out as a first buy?

Also, getting a used rev in the UK, where do people look, eBay is turning up a blank and I'm not sure where else would be a trusted source.

Popped in to Dunstable on my way back from Oxford yesterday, no one flying but I didn't expect there would be, a weekday and the piles of snow might have put people off a bit.