mcaren Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 How to throw your Rev. Nice little trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 you got the throw part down great .. when doing the catch the kite has to be right above you stright up top as high as you can get it .. when you tug the top lines give a firm snap so that the kite wil not get that twisting that you seem to be getting.. other then that great work on the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesey Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 you got the throw part down great .. when doing the catch the kite has to be right above you stright up top as high as you can get it .. when you tug the top lines give a firm snap so that the kite wil not get that twisting that you seem to be getting.. other then that great work on the trick Yeah and remember that Antman does it with his blast stack.... One handed.....blindfolded... holding a beer I seem to have the same problem ... that and I'm simply not prepared to run and catch the kite ... too undignified (without a sports Bra).... So do you tug the lines down or back? and where on the top lines are you grabbing ... seems to depend on the amount of breeze for me .. i.e. more breeze tug directly overhead, less further down .. is that right/wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 jonsey i have you know that i dont hold the beer when i do it ha ha ha ha as for the running part .. if you put the kite up to the highest part of the window stright above you and do a full armlength of a tug the kite will come right to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 A lot of times in light wind, I just put my hands high up on the handles and pull down. I do this in my WSIKF Dinkin' Around video. But most of the time, grabbing up on the lines is the best way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linekahuna Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 How to throw your Rev. Nice little trick Another variation is to have the kite upright ready to launch. Wrap the top lines around the hands once or twice, then pull top lines sharply and the kite should glide right to you. Use lines that are under 40 feet long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcaren Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Oh like the sound of that. I'll be giving that a go tomorrow! :-) --- Another variation is to have the kite upright ready to launch.Pull the top lines sharply and the kite should glide right to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 The only problem with that is that it is very difficult with longer lines, or with medium or heavy wind. In very light wind conditions with short lines, it is really fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 This is one situation where the SLE spars work very well. All that stiffness and weight makes it into a fine javelin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcaren Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I see what you mean about the twisting...mind you it was a freaky day that day. We were flying in a valley and there was no wind as such, basically thermals were coming through every few minutes and the wind was switching 180 degrees as we were flying. Challenging conditions and great fun! --- you got the throw part down great .. when doing the catch the kite has to be right above you stright up top as high as you can get it .. when you tug the top lines give a firm snap so that the kite wil not get that twisting that you seem to be getting.. other then that great work on the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellykelly Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Nice video thanks for posting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Now you'll see the advantage of having your top leaders being a longer length. The further out there you can reach (and grab safely!) the better your catch will look. In low winds you'll grab and jerk as the kite is rising towards the top of the window, NOT directly above you. You want a nice slow glide that reaches an apex and then descends down to the flier gracefully. Longer leaders allow you to reach out further, hence a greater effect on the kite longer leaders protect your pinky fingers from deep spectra slices (that can take weeks to heal!) The proper top leader length is defined by the gap between your two handle flying line attachment positions. The top leaders should ALMOST reach the bottom triangles. The tuning variable is going to be on the bottom leaders, most folks use one third to one quarter of the top leader length. Obviously your adjustment tuning knots are also on the bottoms, so you get muscle memory for throws and catches with the same length always on the tops. Longer throw handles allow for a longer leader length on the tops. If you are using anything except 100# high-test bridle as your material for leaders, I'd recommend you change it. How thin and stiff is dacron? Big knots are a sure tangle point as well, occasionally folks "catch-up" on the bottom triangles also, (so many fliers design a solution to overcome this tangle point) Try throwing the kite ACROSS the wind window diagonally, so it slows down as it gets further out there. Since both handles are already in one hand, just push your thumb towards the kite, at the end of the throw to "paste it inverted", right above the ground. It looks better as a slow glide and stationary paste at the end of the throw is a nice final touch showing your control. Practice throws and catches on lines that are 20% longer than you intend to use in demos or competitions. Then when you go to your "money length" it will seem much easier than your practicing efforts. Again, the objective is slow and graceful, so it doesn't look like a mistake. The jerk-catch from resting on the ground upright requires NO bridle and short linesets. Done well though this is a way cool movement. Next work on the "be-header" Instead of catching the kite, just duck/squat down low and let it fly all the way to the up-wind location. (best done is a dead-calm!) With a partner you can throw thru/between the linesets (nesting) and then fly back out by one individual holding a vertical leading edge stationary hover and the other flier side-sliding back out. Finish off your fancy REVwork with a synchronized catch and be prepared for autographs and applause. Not that I can do any of this stuff personally, LOL -paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 The closer to the handles you pull, the more the kite will float/travel. The further out you reach and pull, the more straight/direct the kite's path will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 The closer to the handles you pull, the more the kite will float/travel.The further out you reach and pull, the more straight/direct the kite's path will be. I am reaching out quite a bit and the kite is coming up short every time.(30' lines) Can I assume if I don't reach out so far the kite will "float" further toward me? :confused!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 In theory... The angle of the kite (high or low in the window), wind speed, etc all come into play as well. The other thing you might try is giving the kite an extra "load-up" at the top of the window, to get a little more overhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Denny, the kite is too high (already at the top of the window) so the wind just knocks it straight down with no action towards the flier's position. Thirty feet should be a very reliable length, or you just need a little more practice. Try doing it on the way up, like 2/3's or 3/4's high. Reach out there and pull both top lines down towards the ground and diagonally towards your shoulders at the same time. Don't be concerned with catching it just yet, work on acquiring a fair amount of traveling distance as your major objective. I practice on 80 feet of line and do demos usually on sixty feet. I can stand flat-footed and catch it about 85-90% of the time. The trick for me anyway, is much easier in low wind conditions using an SUL kite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I guess I should add, I also use "training wheels" on my kites, so they have a better glide (my personal opinion to be sure), the frame and sail connections are stiffer, less motion is lost or diluted, no tangle points, lighter in weight overall depending on the flying condition's frame choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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