portlandflyer Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 If I remember correctly, it was on the "Billy the Mountain" record! May have done other stuff too, but I thought of that one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Yesterday there was a bit of cleanup where the "Back button" was not returning you to where you came from. Then I added in the start of Category "J" I couldn't upload until today because of Network issues. For those who have not been following all of this, it is in Reference to the Super 16 Web Site at: http://gyraphicdesign.com/Super16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 I didn't but there is that possibility! I thought, fly the blocks in straight to hit the 16 Diamond, and then 'rotate'. Just for clarity, the turns for each of the four blocks were envisaged as 'parallel' not 'following'. Felix Take a look at this: http://www.johnnmitchell.com/GyD/Super16/cat_k/animate/KV2KQ.html You can also call it from Category K. The red circle rotate in the last sequence of your sketch didn't seem to work in order to get back to the original position. Maybe you could clarify how much of an ACW you were thinking of there. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 <snip> Maybe you could clarify how much of an ACW you were thinking of there. Enjoy! Ok here is what I was thinking. I'm not sure about the wraps but I think that a partial rotation in the groups ABCD would be sufficient to get back to the start point if required. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ok here is what I was thinking. I'm not sure about the wraps but I think that a partial rotation in the groups ABCD would be sufficient to get back to the start point if required. Felix Felix, I numbered the sequences. Could you tell me which ones were interpreted correctly and which ones were not? Thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Felix, I numbered the sequences. Could you tell me which ones were interpreted correctly and which ones were not? Thanks, John Sorry, where should I be looking? Maybe something needs to be refreshed... Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sorry, where should I be looking? Maybe something needs to be refreshed... Felix Sequence numbers for this maneuver only appear centered vertically and way on the left side. You might have to zoom out if your monitor is not around 16:9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sequence numbers for this maneuver only appear centered vertically and way on the left side. You might have to zoom out if your monitor is not around 16:9. URL? Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 URL? Felix http://www.johnnmitchell.com/GyD/Super16/cat_k/animate/KV2KQ.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 http://www.johnnmitc...mate/KV2KQ.html Hi John, I had seen that and did not see any issues. Did you see my subsequent posts and images? Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Hi John, I had seen that and did not see any issues. Did you see my subsequent posts and images? Felix Sorry, I had understood that there was a problem with my animated interpretation of your sketch. Okay, Now I will look hard at your latest sketches and see what I can do with them. Be back later. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Ok here is what I was thinking. I'm not sure about the wraps but I think that a partial rotation in the groups ABCD would be sufficient to get back to the start point if required. Felix Felix, It's Ready! http://www.johnnmitchell.com/GyD/Super16/cat_k/animate/KV2KQ_alt.html Happy Holidays! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I haven't forgotten you all. I'll be back on this is a few days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I haven't forgotten you all. I'll be back on this is a few days! No problem... We are focusing on next weekend <grins> Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 I don't think the this animation is possible in real life: http://gyraphicdesign.com/NY2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I don't think the this animation is possible in real life: http://gyraphicdesign.com/NY2011 In real life we did the 'Ladder up Launch' to 'Grid Threads' and the 'Grid Square' to 'Grid Diamond' and then 'Diamond Threads'. All good stuff and plenty more as well. At one moment it looked as though we might have attempted the 'Four Block' rotation but it was not to be. Next time! Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I haven't forgotten you all. I'll be back on this is a few days! Today we flew six and re-visited the 'heartbeat' which we first flew at Knokke 2010. Two outward facing vertical lines morph to the ball and back to vertical lines again. This has to be a core move. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Today we flew six and re-visited the 'heartbeat' which we first flew at Knokke 2010. Two outward facing vertical lines morph to the ball and back to vertical lines again. This has to be a core move. Felix Sorry, I have really been bogged down in school(now 5 days a week) and some work. Within that work, I created the graphics for a couple new banners for Ben, which will be seen soon, somewhere. Then there is a another graphic design project I am working on for them, which most of you may never see. Seems to me I had created a horizontal version of your vertical heart beat. I will try to look into it this week. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 <snip> Seems to me I had created a horizontal version of your vertical heart beat. I will try to look into it this week. John Not doubting that for a moment. As I say, it should be a core move. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Finally back to "Super 16" again, at least for a little while. I am back to 4 days in class each week versus five. Where should I continue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted April 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Finally back to "Super 16" again, at least for a little while. I am back to 4 days in class each week versus five. Where should I continue? I did look recently and was very impressed by what you had done. When we flew at Dunstable the fliers were very interested in the transition from the square to diamond as I recall. (Getting 16 fliers together is one thing, 100 a completely different notion.) As you are doing the 'leg work' I think that you should decide what comes next... Best wishes Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I did look recently and was very impressed by what you had done. When we flew at Dunstable the fliers were very interested in the transition from the square to diamond as I recall. (Getting 16 fliers together is one thing, 100 a completely different notion.) As you are doing the 'leg work' I think that you should decide what comes next... Best wishes Felix I doubt transitioning from a square to a diamond is reasonably possible with 100 considering the given length of lines at 120 feet. The diamond itself is the problem being that the upper tip would most likely be well outside the wind window. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lylenc Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 You might be able to come up with a 3-D diamond formation. It would require the flyers having enough skill to be in close quarters, with some flyers having other kites in front, behind, above, below, and each side of their kites. It would be something like the regular 2-D formation with refueling for the third dimension. That sounds like a recipe for disaster and potential world record bird's nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I doubt transitioning from a square to a diamond is reasonably possible with 100 considering the given length of lines at 120 feet. The diamond itself is the problem being that the upper tip would most likely be well outside the wind window. Thoughts? To add to this, I think a square would be pushing or exceeding the limits of the wind window on 120 ft lines. You would have 25 REVs, tip to tip on each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I doubt transitioning from a square to a diamond is reasonably possible with 100 considering the given length of lines at 120 feet. The diamond itself is the problem being that the upper tip would most likely be well outside the wind window. Thoughts? When you have 16 in a square and you want to transit to a diamond, that could look quite nice. I picture two reasonable ways to transit at this time. One being a slow rotate of all revs in clock fashion by 45 degrees. The other is kind of a breath in breath out method where sides breath out and the corners breath in. I like the latter best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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