play365 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Wow if this works it will make writing a routine a lot easier cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Single, Pair and Team min/max time limits imposed for Precision/BalletWhen creating a Precision routine, the editor will not allow you to select a routine time that is greater or less than the min/max regulation time for the chosen discipline. When creating a Ballet routine, the editor will not all you to load sound clips that exceed the min/max regulation time limits for the chosen discipline. How about just giving a warning instead? This would make it a more versatile program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hoath Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 How about just giving a warning instead? This would make it a more versatile program. Mike has got a good point here. A time restraint would not be helpfull for non-competition routines. eg Too Much Fun had a routine that was nearly ten minutes long (or did it just seem like it with that music? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 How about just giving a warning instead? This would make it a more versatile program. Mike has got a good point here. A time restraint would not be helpfull for non-competition routines.eg Too Much Fun had a routine that was nearly ten minutes long (or did it just seem like it with that music? ) This is possible too, I didn't mentioned that. You can choose from Ballet, Precision and Freestyle settings for your routine. Obviously the Freestyle setting has no time restrictions (I edited my above post to reflect this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummas Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Actually Stephen it was only 9.5 minutes long!! And what's wrong with the music I ask! Drew, What you ave listed so far looks outstanding. I did note you have a comment that says: Kite motion dictated by 2-line and 4-line settings The editor will track the orientation of the kite avatar and will not allow, for example, dual-line kites to fly backwards, hover or perform any other quad-line maneuvers I assume this will allow a dual line to stall (hover) for a while, as this is a very valid a widely used move? Otherwise just can't wait to see it. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I assume this will allow a dual line to stall (hover) for a while, as this is a very valid a widely used move? Good catch Mark, I'll allow 2-line kites to hover. Would you guys suggest a maximum time limit at which point I can warn the user that the hover may have extended too long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrenge Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Loved what I have seen.... If you need help selling this let me know... I will represent you in Europe BTW is there any plans to make a Windows Mobile Version of this???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 BTW is there any plans to make a Windows Mobile Version of this???? That's not a platform I'm supporting right now, but - who knows? Maybe at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrenge Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I asked because it is much easier to take a PDA to the beach then a Laptop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I asked because it is much easier to take a PDA to the beach then a Laptop... True. I'll see about a feature that prints out the various steps in the routine (keypoint to keypoint) so you can that out to the beach instead. Still working on a simple demo. The temps have been soaring into th e90's and we've been having A/C issues so working on the comp has been hard since I don't want anything (including me) to overheat. Also lost internet for a while thanks to a t-storm. Getting there tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrenge Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 True. I'll see about a feature that prints out the various steps in the routine (keypoint to keypoint) so you can that out to the beach instead.Still working on a simple demo. The temps have been soaring into th e90's and we've been having A/C issues so working on the comp has been hard since I don't want anything (including me) to overheat. Also lost internet for a while thanks to a t-storm. Getting there tho... what programing language are you using???? let me know when you have a demo so I can test it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'm using Torque Script. I'm actually using a game engine to develop this, not really and application layer of any sort. Game development is something I do on the side as a hobby. Sorry for the fact that it's July and there's no demo However I do have the ability to click on the screen to assign points and then have the kite follow them. It's a start right? Hopefully I'll be able to find more time to work on it... Oh and I still need a 3D artist.... (I'll start asking in more appropriate places soon but I figured I'd give someone from the rev community a chance first ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 ho boy. So sorry guys but I haven't had a single spare minute of time to open up my code editor and work on this. however I still randomly think about it from time to time so it's not entirely dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 UPDATE!! Help Wanted I need a 3D artist to whip me up a Delta and Rev kite model. These models will be animated to do tricks later, for now I just need the basic models Gaiiden, I'm not a 3D artist but Andy Wardley form the UK may be able to help, in more ways than one. Have a look at Wardley.org various areas may be of interest... Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 thanks Simon! I'll keep the reference for when I need it again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Weider Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hello, This may seem late, what is the status of this routine builder? is it avaiable somewhere now, or is it still in the development stage? This sounds unrealll cool! and jotting down on paper, is a task in and of itself, so to have a picture with timemarks and audio in realtime would help, then you go to the field and realize your kite does not go that fast or the timing is off. for anyone who has built a routine knows how the conditions change a routine best laid plans, a Quad however is the excepetion and would help but I would think If you can not build a routine for real this will not answer all your questions so I would say for those of you go out try to build while this is in development then use the builder to refine just to maximize reality! I only say this for those that have not spent time doing it the old fashion way!!! what translates on paper/computer does not always show in MOTHER NATURE!! Having spent alot of recent time stuck in the cushions of my couch!! I think I can get up and out some now..This sounds unbelievable to me BUT, put on your MP3s and FLY, then this thing will really WORK!! I 'can't wait to try it. please let me know what the status as of this reply is /anyone??? EXCITED in freezing, well not today, in Rhode Island, Scott Weider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Bueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Weider Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Bueller?? is this the Chris Taylor, who along with your partner/wife and now your son who competes or competeted? my old friend?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Bueller?? is this the Chris Taylor, who along with your partner/wife and now your son who competes or competeted? my old friend?? I'm THE son of who I think you are referring to... Wayne Taylor is my father and was a competitor along with my stepmom Robin in quadline events back in the late 90's. They haven't been around kiting much and have moved to AZ, but I returned to kiting in 2004 from a 4 year break. I'm considering competition myself but time will tell. I'd mostly like to build a routine right now for local demo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Weider Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Koool, Build a routine is they way to go, for whatever reason, you will always have that foundation to build from, Look at Baressi, his bugs routine won Nationals in 1994 and 2007 so it will always evolve! I was with World Champion, Mark Lummas, team captain, in New York last week, he said he still refers to the original routine SKY Dance built and won the World Championship with so... built it they will come.... I hope this encourages you! it's in your blood! since you were a kid did'nt you go to festivals with your parents? you probably went and watched even if you didn't want to be there, You are what kiting is I would love to see your routine on video, If I can't be in OHIO! anytime soon! I was talking with an 18 year old girl, Pamela Plouff, from the TEXAS area I mentioned to her to fly and do what you like, since she attended festivals, since she was a little kid even when she did'nt want to be there, YOU HAVE SEEN more than the aveage kiter so do what's in your heart, and I'm sure IT will be AWESOME! thanks for listening to this old dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Koool, Build a routine is they way to go, for whatever reason, you will always have that foundation to build from, Look at Baressi, his bugs routine won Nationals in 1994 and 2007 so it will always evolve! I was with World Champion, Mark Lummas, team captain, in New York last week, he said he still refers to the original routine SKY Dance built and won the World Championship with so... built it they will come.... I hope this encourages you! it's in your blood! since you were a kid did'nt you go to festivals with your parents? you probably went and watched even if you didn't want to be there, You are what kiting is I would love to see your routine on video, If I can't be in OHIO! anytime soon! I was talking with an 18 year old girl, Pamela Plouff, from the TEXAS area I mentioned to her to fly and do what you like, since she attended festivals, since she was a little kid even when she did'nt want to be there, YOU HAVE SEEN more than the aveage kiter so do what's in your heart, and I'm sure IT will be AWESOME! thanks for listening to this old dog! Already found my music... It might be a bit long but should make for something to remember. I was very interested in kiting from the late 80's till about '98. My dad and I got into kites together really. They didn't start competing till I sort of drifted away from kites into custom cars as a "hobby". Fresh out of high school, cars seemed to have a large following around that age. I came back to kites after i realized I didn't have the wallet to afford what I wanted to do with my vehicles. I also remembered it as quite relaxing to just get out in some nice weather and fly a kite. I'm sure we'll catch up at some point. I tend to travel to festivals when I have the spare $ to do so. http://airwaveskitefest.com/ This would be a good festival to visit Ohio for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Weider Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Great choice of Music, Hans Zimmer is my favorite, I flew to Back Draft" very close to my heart and great changes you should do well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 it's stalled, as is all my development projects at the moment while I'm forced to divert all attention towards other things. It's literally been over half a year now since I was able to even find time to work on it. There is hope on the horizon - I may be able to take plenty of time off this summer to work on stuff like this and my indie computer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuseppe Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hi all, It is clear that a brigh, "full of features" routine animation software is difficult to see the light...... So we took Stephen's idea of using a rough tool but easily available as Power Point and use it to plan the new routines. It is up o you to draw more or less movements to create a good resolution animation than can be driven using the arrow keys (not very difficult, isn't it?) and can be even mixed with music and converted to video to share with the rest of the team. (at least using Power point for Mac...) I usually draw the start and end kite positions in a movement, and then draw intermediate positions, so the animation gives a good idea of what he movement is. It is a s simple as cut&paste and move the kites a litle bit, individually, by groups, you can easily rotate the kites..... It is simple but a litle tedious, but I like the results. I attach a simple sample (that some of you may recognize...) So, thank you very much Stephen, for starting this thread...... Regards, PPT_Animation_Sample.ppt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 For what it's worth, the image I posted up on Page 2 is still on my white board. I just wish I had the time to do anything about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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