Felix Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Be on the lookout for maneuvers that are "undo"s of other maneuvers (or nearly so and could be modified). Nothing is so impressive as an obvious mare's nest of line wraps that miraculously clears itself without simply backing out of it. That is exactly my thinking... Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Today I added in color and position numbers for all the present categories. This is subject to change, in particular when it prove to be not reasonably feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Today I added in color and position numbers for all the present categories. This is subject to change, in particular when it prove to be not reasonably feasible. I just had a quick look and will have to take a more studied look at the weekend. The way that the groups are set up is critical <grins> It occurs to me that we may need to have alternate configurations in some situations. Is there a mathematician in the house? Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I have 6 animations now integrated into AB Ball. More will be coming over the next days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I have 6 animations now integrated into AB Ball. More will be coming over the next days. I also added in AC Big Ball for 2 animations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I also added in AC Big Ball for 2 animations Two BB animations under B have been added which are a reverse of AB under A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Two BB animations under B have been added which are a reverse of AB under A. Two CB animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AB animation in A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Two CB animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AB animation in A. Two EA animations have been added which are a reverse of the similar AC animation in A. The navigating on the Super 16 web site has also been improved with changes of images when the cursor moves over an image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Several NEW animation elements have been added so far today. BB to BE and BE to BB under both BE and BB BE to IA and IA to BE under both BE and IA EA to HH and HH to EA under both EA and HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Several NEW animation elements have been added so far today. BB to BE and BE to BB under both BE and BB BE to IA and IA to BE under both BE and IA EA to HH and HH to EA under both EA and HH Final add in for the night: HH to EB and EB to HH under both EB and HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Final add in for the night: HH to EB and EB to HH under both EB and HH Great work John! Now here is a small sequence from starting grid to four diamonds paying attention to numbering. I think that this may work and it gets close to the Zig Zag which I think is 'quite exciting' <grins> Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Great work John! Now here is a small sequence from starting grid to four diamonds paying attention to numbering. I think that this may work and it gets close to the Zig Zag which I think is 'quite exciting' <grins> Felix It will work! I have it all cataloged to be added in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 It will work! I have it all cataloged to be added in. I am glad that you are so confident that it will work. What interested me was that this small sequence afforded access to quite a lot of other moves with the transitions that you have already catalogued. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 It will work! I have it all cataloged to be added in. As an aside, one of the issues that I had noted was that the initial grouping was potentially based around the 16 grid and the four kites in 'each corner' of the grid rather than the columns or lines that seemed to be your point of reference in the numbering that you had applied. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 As an aside, one of the issues that I had noted was that the initial grouping was potentially based around the 16 grid and the four kites in 'each corner' of the grid rather than the columns or lines that seemed to be your point of reference in the numbering that you had applied. Felix I am setting it up to work in multiple points of reference. The primary, though this could change, is the 4 columns reference. You could transit at any time from 4 columns reference(CA and variations) to the 4 rows reference(FA and variations) or the 4 block reference(DA and variations). I am visualizing that there are times when one of the other references might be better for the maneuvers you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I am setting it up to work in multiple points of reference. The primary, though this could change, is the 4 columns reference. You could transit at any time from 4 columns reference(CA and variations) to the 4 rows reference(FA and variations) or the 4 block reference(DA and variations). I am visualizing that there are times when one of the other references might be better for the maneuvers you want to do. I'm not quite sure that I understand how that might work in practice <grins> Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have added "CB-EA-CB" to category C and "EA-CB-EA" to category E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have added "BG-HI-BG" to category B and "HI-BG-HI" to category H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have added "CB-BB-CB" to category C and "BB-CB-BB" to category B. That is all for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have added "CB-BB-CB" to category C and "BB-CB-BB" to category B. That is all for today. John, I think that by articulating the transitions between the various figures a 'pattern' of possibilities is becoming clear. <grins> We may set about trying to get 16 fliers together in SE England over the New Year weekend. Any takers? Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I'm not quite sure that I understand how that might work in practice <grins> Felix For the time being I am going to place the idea of block groups and row groups on ice. I'll rework block groups into being based on column groups and then continue with those animations. As for Row groups it will stay in it's present state for the time being. In other words I won't be adding any animations unless we see a real need for this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 For the time being I am going to place the idea of block groups and row groups on ice. I'll rework block groups into being based on column groups and then continue with those animations. As for Row groups it will stay in it's present state for the time being. In other words I won't be adding any animations unless we see a real need for this group. I'm not quite sure about your distinctions here. I appreciate the need to work through methodically but I keep 'seeing' the connections between the column groups, row groups and block groups. I'm thinking of the calling say of 'columns to diamonds' (a horizontal row of four diamonds), 'rows to diamonds' (a vertical column of four diamonds) and 'four blocks to diamonds' (2 x 2 diamonds). Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I'm not quite sure about your distinctions here. I appreciate the need to work through methodically but I keep 'seeing' the connections between the column groups, row groups and block groups. I'm thinking of the calling say of 'columns to diamonds' (a horizontal row of four diamonds), 'rows to diamonds' (a vertical column of four diamonds) and 'four blocks to diamonds' (2 x 2 diamonds). Felix Felix, it is not dead, just on ice for the time being. The block groups are being kept, but in an ice folder for the time being. Row groups is just being left alone for the time being. I want to place most of the concentration for the moment on column groups. I am presently creating a new blocks. It is based on column groups. Last night I reworked an early block routine into being based on column groups. It works fine and seems easier to understand. This evening, time permitting, I will break it up into animated elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Felix, it is not dead, just on ice for the time being. <snip> Fine, it is entirely up to you how to proceed! Thanks again for all your efforts. Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Foster Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Talked to John Mitchell in San Diego last Saturday, and he asked if I was following this thread. I told him that I had looked at some of it, but not the whole thing. Well, I have spent a good portion of today doing just that. There is way too much fun posted here. Lynn and I were in our first grid at Kite Party 8, a grid of 16. We were in several 16s as well as the 56 and 64 at WSIKF. The problem we have here is getting 16 fliers together. A few weeks ago we were in San Diego for a few days and had John Mason, Tom King, Carol and Cass Pittman (from Seattle, WA), Lynn and myself. We only needed 10 more Rev fliers. I'm not sure there are 10 more in Southern California who could/would fly in a grid, and if there are, getting them all in the same place at the same time, well, good luck. Perhaps New Years Day at Mariner Point in San Diego? Who's up for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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