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  1. Thanks everyone, sorry for the delay, was kiteless until yesterday. Thanks Hyza, you were right about this, the problem occurred just after inserting the spars into the central LE and tightening the bungees. After it 'broke' I pulled all the spars out of the LE fabric and there were no broken missing pieces, it just looked like the left LE had snapped cleanly off the ferrule. I couldn't understand how it happened. I now have the kite back in my hand and can indeed confirm the affected ferrule had simply slid into the central LE. I didn't realise the central LE was just a regular rod and that the ferrules were separate pieces and simply glued in place. Using your advice I've since managed to get the other ferrule off with pliers, and then used the pliers to straighten a strong wire coat hanger to poke the other problematic ferrule back out, many thanks for that! Seems the standard glue holding the ferrules in situ isn't very strong. Will use superglue to reglue them. Will also still be grabbing a lighter frame and thanks to everyone's advice I will likely forgo the Diamonds for now and get a set of Black Race Rods to compliment the 3-wraps for low wind, and educate myself further in those conditions. I'm not content with waiting for slighlty windier days! Just for interest, I weighed my 3-wrap frame - 101grams for the full set (5 rods + 2 ferrules) in total. That compares with other people's weights of 75g for the set of Race Rods, and 50grams for a set of Diamonds. Back to the 3-wraps, the four single outer rods (not the rod used for the central LE with ferrules) individually weighed in at 16g, 17g, 17g and 20g. A moderate discrepancy between the 16-17gram rods and the 20g one, which was odd, especially as the 20g rod was one of the ones on the side. To rule out user error in weighing, I re-calibrated the scale and weighed the rods again and the same figures held. The central LE rod (with 2 ferrules) weighed 30g. The ferrules weigh 5grams each, the central LE rod itself (without ferrules) was also 20g. Knowing this, I calculated the Left to Right distribution ratio of weight of my previous frame layout as being 48:52 grams (L:R) of the kite, meaning the right side weighed 4grams more than the left (about a 7-8% difference in the frame). The difference would become negligable when you factor in the weight of the rest of the kite, and also for an amateur pilot's technique, but I may still use this info to redistribute the rods so they balance out a touch better, such as placing the 20g rods either side of the kite and allocating one of the other rods to be the new central LE and attach the ferrules to it. Thanks again.
  2. Still loving my 1.5! (SLE, but without the SLE, if you get me) However the left 3-wrap LeadingEdge spar seemingly broke cleanly off the central LE during setting up, leaving the end of the spar still attached flush to the central LE's ferrule. Hard to get it off the central LE. Unsure how it occurred as little pressure was placed on it when handling and I'm always extremely careful at all times when setting up, flying, dismantling and putting it away, but could have been a unseen fracture from a former accident just waiting to shear, or a family member unduly placing something heavy/stressful on the kite during the long haul car transit prior to using it. So replacements!.. Will get a suitable 3-wrap spar to replace it, but was also thinking of getting a separate lighter frame for lower wind speeds as sometimes I struggle trying to keep it up during the lulls, inevitably it gently floats down to land (if I've ran out of room to walk backwards) and I'm waiting there for the next gust in order to relaunch it, hehe. Ad infinitum. I'm only used to using 3-wraps as that's all I've had available to me, other than the large SLE which doesn't get used. Saw that the black Race Rods have the weight of the 2-wrap with the strength of the 3-wrap. Then I saw the Diamonds, which are lighter than the black Race Rods but are supposedly even stronger, with the greater stiffness of the 3-wraps? I'd still like to be able to throw the kite around (in 10mph winds), and carry out sharp, snappy turns and manoeuvres, does this bode well? I saw someone say their Diamond frame was 51g in total, while the black Race Rods are 75g. Does anyone happen to know how heavy the standard 3-wrap frame is? Unfortunately my Rev is currently 100 miles away (will be reunited in a fortnight), or I'd gladly weigh the frame myself. Ty, Mºg
  3. Just saw this on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151758975341570&set=vb.84309256569&type=2&theater'> Will the layout ever hit the Colorizer, like the B-Pro/Zen?! I like it... a Lot!
  4. Small world! Happened to be walking along a coastal footpath into Whitby on Saturday, and was surprised to see two custom Revs flying high on top of the cliff by the old Whitby Abbey - an enormous surprise for me as in my 34 years I've never seen anyone flying Rev kites before! Made a detour, had a wonderful chat with the pilots, but have only just realised after doing a quick search on the forum we'd actually already spoken! Was a pleasure to meet you Vince and Chris (of Team Fusion). What made it all the more ironic was I was so close to bringing my Rev1.5 to fly on the very same spot without knowing you were there, but we were making our way to Whitby for dinner and forewent (foregoed?) taking it. I flew on Whitby beach just the previous day, the tide was right out and the wind was perfect, absolutely loved it. Fantastic to see the pro's doing it how it should (I'm still working on hovers and reverse-inverts!). The vented looked so smooth. Baz's anodised no-snag handles looked great too, just about to order a couple of marble stakes from him. Loved the custom team prototype you were using. Always fancied the idea of a Jolly Roger (with a "blow me down" one-liner or similar) or a Dracula-inspired sail to fly at that very location. Really enjoyed the chat, hope we meet again. Give us a shout if you happen to go again, I'm often at that location as my parents have a static caravan a mile away on the clifftop (Saltwick Bay). ~Timo aka Mºggy
  5. How heavy is a 1.5(SLE) STD sail compared to a B-Pro STD? (Minus rods). Is there a difference? Guessing so given that they utilise different fabric materials. Are there any figures published on the weights of individual sails? However I guess they may be subject to change over time depending on the availability of material fabics at any point. Ty.
  6. Had another couple of hours today. This thing is literally off the scale. You can really throw it around. Super sharp 90º turns. Stop it dead. Back it up. Do 2160º spins on the spot (not quite bicycles yet, I'm cheating by pushing one thumb forward and pulling the other back!). Or turn it into a graceful albatross and gently float around the window with the lightest of finger touches. I have never had anything like it, it's crazy. The sun was high in the sky when I flew, the shadow of the kite swooping amongst the grass seemed surreal, like the wings of huge eagle. Made me jump at first when 'it' came lunging towards me, thought it was an incoming dog or something! Found afterwards you can even fly the kite without looking at it, just fingertip control. Will make leaders soon, as I've found when I'm braking or doing hard-stops the lower wing(s) very occasionally turn in on themselves (like a flic flac). I find I'm giving too much of an input to the brake lines. Or maybe I'm heavy handed, or too quick, or using too much wrist range. Will work on it. Managed to find some lines from an old cheap stunt kite I had, they don't look like they'd stretch but they might not be as strong as the LPG lines so I'll double them over before knotting up. Will be interesting to try out the different knotted lengths (thanks StrokeSurvivor!), see how they may affect technique and flight. And yes, a B-Vented is on my wishlist, Rex! Was 11mph again today and I was trying to work on various hovers, but the gusts made it a little lively. Vented would be useful when at the coast too. I've noticed a lot of the videos I've seen of Revs at beaches and team flying are vented and they look real smooth. Thank you all.
  7. Had the most wonderful two hours flying today. Everything seemed to 'click' into place and the overall control felt a lot more natural and intuitive. Was much more confident in controlling it and making it do (roughly!) what I want it to, and was less scared of the kite being damaged as a result. The wind was slightly lighter this time, about 10mph instead of 15mph, which also helped a great deal (a vented is now on my list for when it is windier!) Seriously got the biggest smile on my face. It was fun before, but the fun factor has gone exponential. I can only imagine it will get more so as you continue to develop skills. No hard ditches. Was able to use the inverted launch/hover to recover the few flops I did have. Only one brief walk of shame in the whole two hours, and that was only when the kite was already sitting on the ground and fell forward flat with the LE toward me (and I wasn't able to turn it by yanking on a single line). Even got spontaneous applause from a chap walking a dog behind me (unbeknown to me) when I was practicing dive-stops! Didn't even realise how much time had passed, got a slight hunger pang, looked at my watch and realised two hours had gone! Was so relaxing. I can easily see how this can become a way of life. Very glad I found the Rev world. That's amazing, guess they don't call them 'sails' for nothing! Looks very much like the individual sail(s) on a galleon ship but with dual rudders per sail. I originally assumed the spars on the back of the Revs were to keep the sail stretched and flat as possible, clearly not so as they bend and support the sail. A lot of complex physics elements happening here! I can see how some people put the spars at the front (like a dual line kite) by accident, although the stress on the frame and sail might be greater. The workings play with your mind a bit. John B, on another note - I have got to say - a huge thank you for all your tutorials on Kitelife (and youtube) - namely assembly/disassembly, line management (I unravelled and hooked up my lines today when setting up and there literally wasn't a single twist in them!), equalizing, setting up the bridles (something I needed to do when I got the kite second hand after the previous guy had it all knotted up), hovers (which I'm currently enjoying learning), flat relaunching (reduces the embarassment of the walk of shame, and increases the flying time) to name a few. They really have been incredibly useful to a solo learner/flyer like me, every one of them (as no instructions came with the kite). As well as your inspirational flying vids which almost single-handedly got me into Revs after stumbling upon them. We salute you!
  8. Very excited to have my first Rev!

  9. Took the kite for another flight today... As I'm new to the feeling of flying a Rev, and that (to me) the kite feels more 'fragile' than dual kites, I think I overly engage drive on the kite when there is a sudden avalanche of wind in order to try and relieve stress on the sail itself, rather than me yank on the brake and allow it to take the full brunt of the wind and drag me (or I walk) forward for fear of damaging the sail (or very occasionally I also lose control and the sail can go ape-poo at high speed, ho ho). The wind inland is very unpredictable, one moment it's 3-4mph, then next it's a 15mph gust lasting a good 15 seconds or so. I'm learning how to take the kite to the edges of the window to take the stress out of the sail when this occurs, although this is tougher to get a grip on than dual-line kites as the Rev sail is flat and a little more unforgiving of buffeting than the sculpted air-funnelled wing of a dual. Or is 10-15mph too much for a full sail? ... That said, initially seems I need at least 10mph to get it up. The left and right controls are fully figured out now though. While the technicalities are still all very confuzzling at this stage, learning is enormous fun.
  10. Thank you all, making good use of everything you've thrown at me. Was able to take the kite out today and put everything I've read and seen into practice, and, my, what a difference. Firstly, figured out the basic controls moreso thanks to the posts above and this nice little tut of the [ ] from Joe Hadzicki himself (is that the one that is usually bundled with the SLE too?).My error was doing far too much handle-pulling (like a dualie) and not enough thumb-pushing (wrist twisting). Assumed good control over the kite once I knew exactly what was required, actually I was surprised how quickly it takes to get a hang of it. That said, 15mph winds might've been a tad gusty to learn more on - a jump in the deep end with a full sail, 80' lines and UL frame (maybe I should've put the SLE back in), ho ho - but very fun. Never had a kite that could move from the ground to the top of the window SO fast. The airborne equivalent of the . The wind speed also - very quickly! - taught me the necessary lesson of brake vs. drive (forward, hover, reverse) using thumbed controls.Was able to enjoy sustained flight, fly contentedly around the window, figure of 8's, land on cue, and even tried to push a few boundaries to see what it could do further. In doing so everything everyone mentioned in this thread became crystal clear!!! Where to begin. A few concurrences for you guys, hehe... 1) I need longer leaders on the top! Just to add a little damping. - It may have been the strong wind, but a few times I felt the kite wanted to go over the top of me (and beyond!), despite pushing both thumbs forward at times (maybe too late, however). I have no problems launching the kite, so longer leaders wouldn't be a problem. 2) Think I'll be buying a vented at some point! What's this, a second kite, already? Another non-surprise for you guys. Really think I will be needing a vented at the coast, though. 15mph is common, and a vented might help iron out the gusts somewhat. 3) It really is a massive bundle of fun. 4) Although 120' lines might be nice, I can't really use anything longer than 80' due to width limitations of local recreation grounds and beaches. Anything longer and people would almost have to walk underneath me, which I don't want, and they probably wouldn't want either! I'd travel further afield but am unable to drive due to health probs. :/ 5) Tent pegs (as stakes) can be an absolute bugger to search for on both grass and beach if I fail to pick the peg up and put it into my pocket at the same time as picking up the handles. Will be putting in an order for a couple of Walt's marble stakes soon! 6) You guys are ace. But you already knew that. Ty! ~Timo
  11. Finally managed to get it up for my first flight today, ultralight frame throughout, the wind was reported as 10mph. Extremely shaky at first, ditched it a good few times (giving to the kite really helped, Wayne, thankfully no ditches were heavy as a result). Furthermore, that 80' walk is sure a long way when a few people are watching (I even picked the most isolated beach and location to minimise this, alas still the embarrasment)! Eventually got a feeling for the controls and was able to keep it in the sky and even land it gently on its feet mostly toward the end. Soooo different to dual line kites. The controls are polar opposite! My brain was completely mashed for a while. It still is, I can't explain how I managed to keep it up in the sky, it felt more intuitive just to ignore my preconceptions of what should do what and instead used my fingers to feel the subtle pull of each line. As JB says it will all be about finding, building and retaining muscle memory. I now have even greater respect (if that were possible) for the pros who make it look so easy on youtube!! Furthermore, I can see how this can be very addictive! A bit like learning a Rubik's cube. The wind has dropped to 5mph, the lines were sagging (had to move backwards a lot to generate upward thrust latterly) so had to call it a day today. But the kite is great, worth waiting for! Ty all
  12. Ty all. Took it down the beach a few days ago for a test flight but then found the guy who had the kite before had completely messed up the bridle on one side, was completely asymmetric so had to bring the kite home and undo the knots he had made on the one side. Seems he didn't know how to configure the double loop (where the horizontal and vertical bridle lines are attached) and he tried to compensate by wrapping the lines and tying a whole other bunch of knots instead. Managed to get it sorted that night by untying and untangling everything, and then watching JohnB's bridle attachment tutorial on youtube (thanks again John!!). Took it down to the beach the following day but just as I'd set it up the wind dropped to 0mph! The following day it rained non stop, and now for the last 48 hours we've had 30-40mph winds! Patience is a virtue. I WILL get it up someday!
  13. Thanks guys, will try and grab some thin tent/guy rope/string or similar very soon for customising leaders. One thing I wanted to ask, given that the UL was mentioned over the SLE. How does the SLE differ to the UL LE in terms of flying characteristics? The SLE is clearly a lot larger and heavier, I initially thought it would therefore be slower and better to learn on? Dunstable Downs looks a phenomenal place Stephen! Unfortunately I live 100+ miles north and have no transport to get there. :| I'm currently in Whitby again (far north east), so will be able to get on the beach very soon.
  14. I'm back! After starting this thread I was a little stumped as to what to do, it gave me a lot to think about. Acting on the advice given, I decided to forego a brand new B-Pro and instead get hands-on experience with a second-hand Rev so I wouldn't have to worry so much about beating up a brand new top-spec kite whilst learning. Also felt a second hand kite would be a good idea in order to have a feel for what a Std sail feels like in use, and therefore what variants (Std, Mid, Vent) to get at a later time, rather than getting a Mid-vent Pro and later finding a Std and a Vent would've been a better choice, as per Kat's advice. It's been a long time - not intentionally (work, and so few Revs coming up on ebay, etc.) - but I finally have my first Rev! It's an SLE, with additional ultra-light LE spars, 13" handles and 80' LPG line. Immaculate condition. Never realised how big it would be, it's about twice the size of me, haha. I'm only little. It didn't come with the DVD - can it be got online, or is it necessary? I've watched all of John Barresi's generous Rev tuts on Youtube and also subbed to Kitelife for his further tutorials. I've been watching his vids over the many months, he's amazing. I think it's most definately fair to say the kiting community would be a much poorer place without JB and you guys. In true English fashion, it's raining, and the forecast is rain all week, so looks like I wont be able to fly as soon as I'd like. Absolutely itching to get out there after all this time. So brushing up on tuts, anything I can find. One question regards the handles, particularly the leaders. Do they look OK (photo below)? Reason I ask, I notice other people's photos have much longer leaders, or different lengths on opposing sides (top vs. bottom), for example. However I'm guessing my handles were part of an original SLE ready-to-fly package so should be ok for starters (and adding extra lengths is merely for further tuning)? Thank you for all your help. ~Møg
  15. Moggy

    Merry Christmas

    Revvy Christmas from England! We've had to postpone Christmas to New Year's Day, as pretty much everyone in our family is down with a really fluey virus! I just want to say thank you again to the community for the warm welcome I received and the knowledge given since I joined. You're all amazing people. Best wishes for the New Year.
  16. Do you mean the pointer jumps around erratically without you doing anything, or the pointer itself is just less fluid? The mouse pointer does seem less fluid (jerkier) on the colorizer section, like it's running at a slower frame rate, but to be honest I'm not sure if it hasn't always been like this! It doesn't seemingly affect the usage at all, all mouse clicks are properly registered. (For background info I have a 2.7GHz quad-core with 4GB RAM and 512MB 8800GT running Vista with Firefox, everything including flash and all drivers are fully updated.)
  17. I can confirm (in Firefox v17.0.1) pressing Sign Out using the old cookie doesn't actually sign you out until you manually delete the old cookie and sign back in again manually to generate a new cookie. Then signing in and out works as expected. Bear in mind there are two cookies from this site:- revkites.com www.revkites.com You can delete all cookies properly en masse using CrapCleaner (aka CCleaner). CrapCleaner is also good to retain certain cookies you also wish to keep, so you can add various sites to your cookie 'keep list' afterwards if you don't want to flush those particular site cookies away again in future. I like to stay logged in to sites I visit regularly.
  18. Certainly does. As I'm still learning, it clears up a good few queries I had running in my head! Thank you all for your esteemed, experienced input.
  19. Thanks John. Just out of curiosity, what are the actual materialistic/physical differences of the Icarex PC-31 over the material used for the regular B-Series?
  20. They're absolutely incredible. Bet they look phenomenal in the sky... doubly so when people are watching.
  21. When browsing the gallery I noticed a good few people have custom sails with their own designs or their Team's insignia on. Such as: http://www.revkites....7_601_38699.jpg http://www.revkites...._472_352988.jpg http://www.revkites....41_19_10239.jpg http://www.revkites....86_33_21415.jpg http://www.revkites...._318_171954.jpg ... and so forth. How do these work, do people make and rig these by themselves, or are they commissioned by artists to be made via RevKites.com (i.e. Bazzer)? What is the physical process used to create them? Are some printed on a full sail, or are they all hand sown and airbrushed like the Masterpieces? It's hard to discern the detail from afar. Just intrigued. Best regards, ~Mog
  22. Does the B and B-Pro differ in fabric, the actual sail material? Or are they made out of the same material? Thanks.
  23. Ah, you lil' bugger! I was bidding on both of those, but particularly the SLE. Missed out on the SLE as the auction finished at about 7am in the morn' and my ipad alarm failed to go off. The B-Std I was also interested in at first but after mailing the guy for more details I got the impression it had been 'very well used' due to replacement rods, old lines, wear marks and so forth, and wasn't sure what other surprises it might have in store, so declined to bid. To get it up to speed I estimated it would need new lines, rods throughout, possibly new handles too and I couldn't justify the outlay considering it was also an old sail. Seeing as you have both, you can swap lines, rods et al, between them. Enjoy.
  24. A few colorized colourised (sorry, I'm English ) designs. PS > Hope Baz didn't mind me testing what his excellent Zen looked like. Saw a photo of Baz' Zen upside down when I was browsing the gallery and liked it, a great design, wanted to see what it looked like upright! Wouldn't dream of copying it of course but it served as great inspiration (as you can probably see, I'm a sucker for rainbow fades). The Hot one was also taken from elsewhere, found on MidWestKites. Looked so vibrant and literally zinging! Also loved RevWizard's avatar of his vented black+spectral fade too. Sky Puppet's Pink Floyd tribute earlier in the thread is genius.
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