Bazzer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Impotant news for all. I have just been flying with Ben this weekend at Lincoln City. He had with him a brand new leading edge spar. I believe it is called the Race Spar. Boy oh Boy! John you and the boys need them. It's about the weight of a two wrap but is a three wrap! We were flying it instead of a two wrap in the low winds. I'm not sure if it is lighter than the two wrap?? I have been practising(alot) and have been getting up to speed with inverted flight. This spar felt fantastic. The overall feel is great. It's so dammed light. I'm not sure what the top end is but it could eliminate that spar change between two and three wrap winds maybe further. Ben can you give every one the details? I'm sure the release must be soon. When can they get it and how much? Put me down for one NOW! the diference in feel was amazing even to this hack! Bazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Are these made by Revolution for Rev's ? If so, Count Me in for a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Well Family the cats out of the bag and I guess it's time to talk about it some. Some of you know that I've been working on some new structures for the 1.5 and theres been a huge break thru on this, what we've done is take some 90 area weight graphite rather than the normal 120 and changed the lay up and some other stuff that I refuse to go into and have made a 3 wrap rod that is about 4.5 grams lighter than the normal quarter inch 3 wrap and much more responsive than anything we have ever made before hence, the Race Frame Set is born. The cost is a bit higher but this carbon fiber is more expensive and the lay up is a #$@%& so yeah it's a bit more expensive. This set up is not for everyone and it lighter with a bit more flex than your used to but we flew it all weekend in Lincoln City Or. in winds as low as 3 mph to almost 12 mph and broke nothing and the fliers I've put on it could not get over how well it flew, it's new and it's cutting edge and it's here for you when you want to take it to another step up in your skill...................Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Ben will you be in the shop tomorrow, if so I actually have a few things to talk to you about.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadkit Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 What will the gold sticker say? "Race Frame" ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Ben will you be in the shop tomorrow, if so I actually have a few things to talk to you about.. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I'll try a half a dozen sticks out too Ben! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilh Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 How does this new stick compare to the 2-wrap? 4.5g lighter than 3-wrap sounds about the same weight as the 2-wrap. Will there be a new stick lighter than the 2-wrap? Very curious as I have a custom SUL on order and might want to rethink the framing... --Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hee hee, I'd heard about this last week however, I was keeping quiet about it. But, I can't wait to try some out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummas Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Mee too, this sounds cool. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Ben had them with him up in LA the weekend before last. They are quite light about like a 2 wrap with the strength of a 3 wrap. He said they would have to be made each by hand because of the type of carbon used. Thus I presume, they will not be cheap. I would guess that they might be in the price class of "Aerostuff". We did not try them as the winds were not reasonable enough to attempt any type of evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodyspecial Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 dang it.. now i have something else to try and order.. well john did say my three wrap frame was kinda light though... yea right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone in Shoe Bob Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 What will the gold sticker say? "Race Frame" ?? Why "Race Frame", I don’t know anyone who races Revs? I suggest “Pro Use – Elite” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 well how much are they im in for a set.. i can put them in my new vented sail i ordered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 The name suggests that the kite moves faster. It makes me want to call them Speed Sticks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadkit Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 professional use only rev equipped ultralight hmmm... race makes sense, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 i would like to try the advantage leading edge and downspars that go on a rev indoor on a 1.5 sail i bet you would see some light wind peforamce then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 i would like to try the advantage leading edge and downspars that go on a rev indoor on a 1.5 sail i bet you would see some light wind peforamce then How about: - SpeedStuff - Master Wrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdenny Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 4.5 grams lighter than the normal quarter inch 3 wrap is interesting but does anyone know the different weights of the 2,3, and 4 wraps? It would be good to know anyway for when I mix them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I like, Ultralight Elite Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilh Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 2-wrap: 14.5g 3-wrap: 19g 4-wrap: 24g 31-inch length, not counting ferrules, average weights on a postal scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 4.5 grams lighter than the normal quarter inch 3 wrap is interesting but does anyone know the different weights of the 2,3, and 4 wraps? It would be good to know anyway for when I mix them up. Many years ago I had written about it for REV I rods in the "Drachen Magazin" which was published in German. Now I am picking at my brain. It seems to me it was 7 grams difference between 2 and 3 and the same 3 and 4. I never checked the weight of my 6 wraps(STIFF). I think the 4 wrap was 28 grams, followed by 3 wrap at 21 grams and 2 wrap at 14 grams. The REV I rods are 91cm long and the REV 1.5 are 79cm long. I just measure my 1.5 rods on a relatively inaccurate US postal scale and got: - 2 wrap 0.5oz - 3 wrap 0.7oz - 4 wrap 0.9oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Even Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I don't know how much my sails weigh....... I don't know how much my spars weigh and I dont know lenghts or widths or any of the other technical stuff that makes my kite fly. I don't even have a second hand on my watch!!! I do know that when my handles do this .... or that ....... it makes my kite fly and gives me enjoyment. Carry on family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrizz Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Now that the spars are here, does that mean the new Rev is soon to follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 i would like to try the advantage leading edge and downspars that go on a rev indoor on a 1.5 sail i bet you would see some light wind peforamce then iQuad has some cut-down indoor spars for their 1.5s. They fly pretty sweet in very light winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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