Morrunya Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Ok cool! High winds kept me grounded today, I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Hopefully One last question - let's say I began my first axel with a left to right slide - should I throw my left arm forward again before my second yank? When I follow thru with my arms after the first axel, my left arm is already kind of forward anyways. If you are in an inverted slide from left to right, your left arm would normally be pulled back, yes? Before your second axel, you want to get back into the same samurai slide as you were before, so you will want your left arm to be pulled back before the second yank. Think of it as stopping in between axels and sliding for a fraction of a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 If you are in an inverted slide from left to right, your left arm would normally be pulled back, yes? Before your second axel, you want to get back into the same samurai slide as you were before, so you will want your left arm to be pulled back before the second yank. Think of it as stopping in between axels and sliding for a fraction of a second. Ok, back from kiting.... When I complete my first axel, and my Rev rotates back near the samurai slide position, I'm loading up the sail too much and wind up back in more of an inverted slide than a samurai slide. It's a reflexive thing for me, the kite feels so loose as it rotates out of the axel. I have to practice keeping the kite loose as it finishes the first axel. Then on to the timing of the next pop on the active line. Thanks again for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Anyone have luck with performing an Axel on the Shockwave? I couldn't call what I have going on an "Axel". Right now, I'd call it "ugly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone in Shoe Bob Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Beautiful slo-mo Axle in this video may help to understand the tecnoqu required. Now all I have to do is master it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madquad Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Beautiful slo-mo Axle in this video may help to understand the tecnoqu required.Now all I have to do is master it. @ 23 SEC... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone in Shoe Bob Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Oops sorry forgot to post the link. Thanks Madquad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Speaking of Axels, another one I've been trying to do (never seen anyone doing it as yet) and its probably near impossible but what about 'back to back axels' (or near) in opposite rotations ...I've had varying degrees of success, nothing I'd show on video mind you LOL. I've done it. First time I did it was with a Zen prototype on thirty foot lines. I don't do it often because my left axel is too unreliable, but it is certainly doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayhiker Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 My follow through has my arms following the motion of the kite as it rotates through the axel, partially in an effort to keep the lines slack, so I'm good there. I haven't even tried for the multiple axel yet, I keep getting hypnotized by the first axel, and miss my window for the second pop on the active line. I can't do anything like this discussion, yet. But I certainly understand the hypnotized part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 When flying dualies it's called a cascade, opposite direction axels choked off half-way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm after that "fade to flick-flak landing". Ever seen Scott Weider do that? Man it's a killer two step, but it happens so fast. You do an axel, at half way around though you snap it powerfully into the flick position and then stick the landing. I'm severely left handed so I'm working on execution in both directions, my preference is doing it towards the right side. It will be awhile before I can stick this unconsciously though! It's all a timing thing, but done at warp speed. I have to work myself up to that pace each time I practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcom714 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'm after that "fade to flick-flak landing". Ever seen Scott Weider do that? Man it's a killer two step, but it happens so fast. You do an axel, at half way around though you snap it powerfully into the flick position and then stick the landing. I'm severely left handed so I'm working on execution in both directions, my preference is doing it towards the right side. It will be awhile before I can stick this unconsciously though! It's all a timing thing, but done at warp speed. I have to work myself up to that pace each time I practice. Hack!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 you know Rich, when all the Riders have this technique down (with Weider's execution style & consistency) he'll actually work it into the routines to keep them challenging,... Pez down from the right, quarter turn pivot, (forward rollover) to inverted hover, half axel to a fade, instantly flick-to a 2 point landing thereafter, in unison as the music ends, work on the geometry, both Paul's stop jackin' around, Laura quiet on the line, Rich stop poking me Walk when I do! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madquad Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 you know Rich, when all the Riders have this technique down (with Weider's execution style & consistency) he'll actually work it into the routines to keep them challenging,... Pez down from the right, quarter turn pivot, (forward rollover) to inverted hover, half axel to a fade, instantly flick-to a 2 point landing thereafter, in unison as the music ends, work on the geometry, both Paul's stop jackin' around, Laura quiet on the line, Rich stop poking me Walk when I do! I wait for the video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlandflyer Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I wait for the video With sound track!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Will there be cookies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Weider Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Here is a sneak peek around 50 second mark of vid , back to back left to right axels Great example of the Axel guysSpeaking of Axels, another one I've been trying to do (never seen anyone doing it as yet) and its probably near impossible but what about 'back to back axels' (or near) in opposite rotation 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 If you can stop each axle half-way thru and do a half-axle in the opposite direction and keep repeating, you should be able to do a cascade. By the way, nice flying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 after almost a decade of trying, my axels still don't look like Scott Weider's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 For me, unless the rev is facing the ground during it's rotation it's not an axel - it's nothing more than yanking a line and letting the kite 'bicycle spin' with slack lines (which to my eye is neither pretty nor a trick). By my own standards, my axel attempts fail more often than not ... but I don't work on it too often since it's hard to get it flat (as it should be) and the chances of a person not knowlegable about revs understanding it are very small. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Practice makes perfect, it seems unreasonable to do only things that are easy. If you can identify a personal weakness then make it your strength you are pushing the limits, the understanding or appreciation of others is not important in your growth. I want the skill to execute any Rev maneuver or trick, but at some point in my past history I could neither hold a hover inverted or back it up at all. We strive to improve and only thru practice will you get better. Of course our early efforts at slack line tricks are ugly, as were our first efforts about speaking or walking, heck we even learned bladder/bowel control but only after many months in diapers! Tip stab axel launch, (repeatable in both directions!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I agree that a preference is a weakness... Merely explaining why axels are low priority to me at present :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makatakam Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 A tip stab axel launch using a Supersonic should be fairly easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 For me, unless the rev is facing the ground during it's rotation it's not an axel - it's nothing more than yanking a line and letting the kite 'bicycle spin' with slack lines (which to my eye is neither pretty nor a trick). Another tricky thing to consider - your perspective and vantage point. Your axel could very well be perfectly flat to the ground, but if it isn't done at eye level (or camera lense level) it might look skewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwmf Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Even flying shapes will look different from different perspectives, yet the shape is still flown from the pilot perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlandflyer Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm agreeing with Steven - Mine look a lot as he described!! I keep wanting to get the kite flatter, but haven't come up with a reliable solution - yet!! So I understand the basics of the move. still working on getting it to look good!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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