I'm back with more questions, this time regarding the Zen. Currently I have 2x B series (full sail and vent), a SLE and an Indoor, along with Race Rods, 2, 3 and 4 wrap rods (don't fly the 2 wrap) and the SLE rod. When it comes to low wind, I can do basic (rough) launch and ground recovery, I can do street style 360, up and overs and rough turns and flight ... Same goes for indoors, although I'd say I'm better at the indoors since the Indoor Rev makes things easier. All my lines are 90# from 5' out to 80' although I do have a 12' x 50# set I originally got for the indoor.
I'm itching for a new Rev and am looking at the Zen for a few reasons, but I'm looking for some thoughts from those who own them.
One of the reasons is because I rekon that at some point I will want to upgrade to Pro series with a custom color and this would be a great way to check out the difference (in person) between a Bazzer made Rev and a B series, evaluate the color scheme before applying it to a set of Pro series AND get a low wind outdoor machine ... alll in one shot.
I still need a find out a few more things that could hopefully convince me that I have enough of a need for this machine to drop the hammer on getting one.
One area of questioning I have is regarding the flight characteristings. Can the Zen owners here give me some kind of indication as to how it flies in zero wind relative to an Indoor and a B series. I say zero wind because that is the wind I've flown both the B and Indoor in so I can use it to relate apples to apples. Since theres no way for me to get hands on with the Zen, I have to relate it to what I got. I like how effortless my Indoor is to fly in zero wind compared to the B, but I'm too afraid to put it up outdoors. I also like the effortless glide on the Indoor compared to the B series and I'm wondering how the Zen comparares.
Could you think of the Zen as an outdoor capable incarnation of the Rev Indoor, or is it closer to a low wind version of the B series?
The other question I have goes towards multitasking the Zen to broaden it's range. While I have found times where the wind was so low or non existant that I was tempted to try my Indoors outside, I also know my wind can start changing or throw in some stronger gusts. My concern is for the strength of the Zen in the upper half of its stated wind range where I may fly it over a 1.5 to make my life easier, but don't want a gust to break it. Would I be able to throw in the Rev I spars (3 or 4 wrap) and essentially have a Rev I to fly, or will that result in a poorly performing kite?
If I can just throw in some stronger spars to safeguard my kite, then that will broaden the range I can use it in which will mean I can fly it more often instead of having an expensive specialty kite. I would think of progressing up along the lines of Zen standard to Zen with 3 wrap to B series as the wind goes up.
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I'm back with more questions, this time regarding the Zen. Currently I have 2x B series (full sail and vent), a SLE and an Indoor, along with Race Rods, 2, 3 and 4 wrap rods (don't fly the 2 wrap) and the SLE rod. When it comes to low wind, I can do basic (rough) launch and ground recovery, I can do street style 360, up and overs and rough turns and flight ... Same goes for indoors, although I'd say I'm better at the indoors since the Indoor Rev makes things easier. All my lines are 90# from 5' out to 80' although I do have a 12' x 50# set I originally got for the indoor.
I'm itching for a new Rev and am looking at the Zen for a few reasons, but I'm looking for some thoughts from those who own them.
One of the reasons is because I rekon that at some point I will want to upgrade to Pro series with a custom color and this would be a great way to check out the difference (in person) between a Bazzer made Rev and a B series, evaluate the color scheme before applying it to a set of Pro series AND get a low wind outdoor machine ... alll in one shot.
I still need a find out a few more things that could hopefully convince me that I have enough of a need for this machine to drop the hammer on getting one.
One area of questioning I have is regarding the flight characteristings. Can the Zen owners here give me some kind of indication as to how it flies in zero wind relative to an Indoor and a B series. I say zero wind because that is the wind I've flown both the B and Indoor in so I can use it to relate apples to apples. Since theres no way for me to get hands on with the Zen, I have to relate it to what I got. I like how effortless my Indoor is to fly in zero wind compared to the B, but I'm too afraid to put it up outdoors. I also like the effortless glide on the Indoor compared to the B series and I'm wondering how the Zen comparares.
Could you think of the Zen as an outdoor capable incarnation of the Rev Indoor, or is it closer to a low wind version of the B series?
The other question I have goes towards multitasking the Zen to broaden it's range. While I have found times where the wind was so low or non existant that I was tempted to try my Indoors outside, I also know my wind can start changing or throw in some stronger gusts. My concern is for the strength of the Zen in the upper half of its stated wind range where I may fly it over a 1.5 to make my life easier, but don't want a gust to break it. Would I be able to throw in the Rev I spars (3 or 4 wrap) and essentially have a Rev I to fly, or will that result in a poorly performing kite?
If I can just throw in some stronger spars to safeguard my kite, then that will broaden the range I can use it in which will mean I can fly it more often instead of having an expensive specialty kite. I would think of progressing up along the lines of Zen standard to Zen with 3 wrap to B series as the wind goes up.
So lets hear it from you Zen owners out there...
Steve
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