KiteLife Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi folks, just figured I'd start topic specifically for the mega fly efforts at this years Washington State Intl Kite Festival... There are some logistics involved for all (travel, hotel, etc), so it's safe to say we all need as much advance notice (and temptation) as possible. Indeed, I'm working to organize enough folks so that we can reach one hundred Revs in formation at once... We had 64 in the air last year, but we never exceeded 50 in actual formation and thus came up short of a new world record. This year, I expect we'll easily surpass the existing record (54) and could very possibly reach 100... Whether or not we actually reach 100, this will be the single largest gathering of Rev pilots ever assembled and a new world record will be set. WSIKF web site - http://www.kitefestival.com/ Festival map: (note Revolution field on far left/south end) I have been in touch with the organizers due to the sheer size of what we're proposing, and the response from Jane Holeman (primary organizer) has been favorable, even with regard to our moving the mega fly attempts south of Sid Snyder (museum approach to the beach)... This will enable us to actually use the whole beach width, with ongoing attention to keeping a through way for emergency vehicles. == Tentative schedule... Date : Staging : Attempt Thu, Aug 19 : 1:30pm : 2:00pm Fri, Aug 20 : 2:30pm : 3:00pm Sat, Aug 21 : 3:00pm : 3:30pm Mandatory 15 to 20 minute pre-flight meeting for all participants at 10:00am on each day to discuss safety, execution, etc... Teams can send one representative to gain and distribute the day's information. == 10x10 Grid layout - wsikf10_grid10x10.pdf Single column view - wsikf10_grid(single-column).pdf Single column guide - wsikf10_grid(single-guide).pdf (thanks to John Mitchell for the PDF work, and to Felix Mottram for the grid concept) Required equipment: 120' spectra lines and any of the 1.5 class Revs (SLE, EXP, B-Series, Masterpiece)... Wind conditions are unknown, so it would behoove folks to come equipped with both standard and vented sails, as well as appropriate frames. Set up on the ground w/ wind running down the beach... Chances are, we literally won't be able to fit 100 kites wingtip to wingtip onto the beach (unless we have a straight ocean wind), so here is how the 10x10 Grid might look from above, while "at rest" on the ground: In theory, this is how the LAUNCHING process might work... When we mobilize, the upwind pilots (1-5) in the center two color columns (blue and black) will launch into position high in the window and move forward if wind allows... Perhaps 30 seconds afterward, the downwind pilots (6-10) in the same columns will launch into position low in the window and walk backward to meet with the top of their column in the middle of the field. Having established the center two columns, we'd then add to each side, two columns at a time... Teal/Yellow Green/Orange Purple/Red Grey/Brown Once we get the process down, we should be able to launch the next pair of columns while the previous two are still positioning... I'd like to see each column up in under a minute, and I think it's very possible once we work out the process and are moving together. == Field location: <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=46.345406,-124.064789&spn=0.003755,0.005482&t=h&msid=114206071250127838405.00048346f8b18011f6ece&output=embed"></iframe><br /><small>View <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=46.345406,-124.064789&spn=0.003755,0.005482&t=h&msid=114206071250127838405.00048346f8b18011f6ece&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">2010 WSIKF 100 Rev Mega Fly</a> in a larger map</small> NOTE: I will assign six safety marshals from our group to ensure that we're doing what we need to be doing, that everyone is laid out courteously within the field, and to ensure that emergency vehicles have a way to pass or go through our field(s) safely if needed. == Here's my basic plan, which will get fleshed out further as the actual event approaches: Two mega fly attempts each day on Thursday, Friday and Saturday... This will give us some "build up" exercise as the ranks grow toward the weekend, but it will also serve to give everyone a great deal of free time to explore and enjoy the festival between attempts.. Pre-flight meetings for all mega fly participants on each of those days, covering basic conduct, schedule, safety and field considerations.. Colored wrist bands to assign "blue column", "red column", etc... One of the issues last year was that "column groups" changed ranks with every attempt based on where people ended up... By assigning colored groups, each column will be able to get familiar with each other, their respective kite colors and what they need to do together as a group within the mega fly... With enough RSVPs from those who are coming, I can even start a spreadsheet well in advance to help sort out skill levels, assign column captains, etc.. Safety will be of paramount importance... My plan is to secure low height flags or banners that we can space 5'-6' apart all the way around the public-facing parts of our flight area (flags allow emergency vehicles to drive over if absolutely necessary, but will give spectators cause to examine their environment... Couple this with six assigned safety marshals to oversee and adjust, we should be good. NOTE 1: While the mega grid attempts will be twice per day, there will almost always be team flying going on, both traditional and small practice grids... Even if you don't think you're up to snuff for grid, this is still a SUPER opportunity to play, enjoy and learn from dozens of very friendly and knowledgeable folks. NOTE 2: I've selected Thu/Fri/Sat because those are the days when most everyone will be in town and a lot of folks leave fairly early on Sunday... We may play with grid practice on Mon/Tue/Wed as well, but there's no counting on whether enough pilots will have arrived by then... So instead, those days are to be free, play, learn, practice and make friends. NOTE 3: Lastly, I'm also working on a diagram which assigns fliers to specific columns and will be handed out to participants at the first pre-flight meeting on Thursday morning, and to later arrivals as they come in over the following two days. A sample image of these grid assignments can be found below, but please understand that it's still VERY tentative - I will be reassigning all the way up to the event, based on team affiliations, skill level, experience, etc. == Sample videos of grid work in Portsmouth, 2008: == Sample video of 6x6 grid work in Berck, 2010: == Setting this up right, well enough in advance and having the whole beach, I think we'll be able to incorporate even the intermediate pilots and potentially a number of the novices (arranged in the outermost left and right columns). If you'll be at WSIKF and are interested in participating, please send me a PM or email with the following info: Name Home town Email address Day arriving (first full day in town) Day departing Self-assessment of skill (0 to 10) Once I've received the info, I'll add it to my spreadsheet in full, then add you to the RSVP here with name and arrival/departure days only... As the list grows, I'll likely flesh out the column assignments here as well so groups can begin to identify and communicate with each other prior to the event. == RSVPs: John Barresi (full week) - iQuad <-- Flight Coordinator Steve de Rooy (full week) - iQuad Takako Barresi (full week) - iQuad JD Fabich (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - iQuad Bazzer Poulter (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - iQuad <-- Safety/Ops David Hathaway (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - iQuad Rich Comras (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - Rev Riders Laura Berg (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - Rev Riders Scott Weider (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - Rev Riders <-- Safety/Ops Ben D'Antonio (Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Stephen Hoath (full week) - The Flying Squad <-- Flight Coordinator Susan Hoath (full week) - The Flying Squad Mark Lummas (full week) - Too Much Fun <-- Safety/Ops Jeanette Lummas (full week) - Too Much Fun Ron Despojado (full week) - Too Much Fun Amy Doran (full week) Connor Doran (full week) Colleen Baker (full week) Bart Busse Paul Loranger Willow Demers (full week) - Island Quad Spence Watson (full week) Mike Tracy (full week) Lori Tracy (full week) Dave Bradley (full week) John Mason (full week) Gary Maynard (full week) - Detroit Windjammers James Lee Wright III (full week) - Detroit Windjammers Michael Carlisle (full week) - Detroit Windjammers James Kinsey (full week) - Detroit Windjammers Ken Walker (Thu/Fri/Sat) Mario DiLucca (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - Island Quad Felix Mottram (full week) - Decorators <-- Safety/Ops Ashley Mottram (full week) - Decorators Ray Lee (full week) Nicole O'Neill (full week) Gordy Wensley (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Martin Linford (full week) - Decorators Howard Mathews (full week) Bob Koga (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - AirBenders Walt Ellis (Fri/Sat/Sun) Jim Fielder (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Joji Davis (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - iQuad David Ellison (full week) - Decorators Calvin Leibelt (Thu/Fri/Sat) Cass Pitman (full week) Carol Pittman (full week) Terry Wiggill (Thu/Fri/Sat) - Island Quad <-- Safety/Ops Jim Foster (full week) - Kite Kids Lynn Foster (full week) - Kite Kids Steve Donovan (Fri/Sat/Sun) - Team Vortice Russell Hammond (Fri/Sat/Sun) - Team Vortice Jason Kitchen (Fri/Sat/Sun) - Team Vortice Seb Clarke (Fri/Sat/Sun) - Team Flic Cathy Tung (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - AirBenders Steve Brown (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - AirBenders Gerald Lokhorst (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) - AirBenders Dianne O'Brien (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Ray Bechard (Tue/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Carol Bechard (Tue/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Manny Abt (Fri/Sat/Sun) Jennifer Brown (full week) Peter Wolf (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Penny Lingenfelter John Farrell Mark Giadone (full week) Brad Bixby (full week) - Island Quad Tom King (full week) Aiyana Markling (Thu/Fri/Sat) Bill Seward (Thu/Fri/Sat) Brad Weiner (Thu/Fri/Sat) Peter Ekstrom (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Page Anderson (Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Julie Burke (Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Alden Miller (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Kristian Slater (Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) PJ Sirl (Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Rick White (Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hey John, I might be able to be there... possibly all week. Go for it anyway! Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Let me know when it's confirmed, we'd LOVE to have you there Felix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Let me know when it's confirmed, we'd LOVE to have you there Felix. I have just made some enquiries about logistical support and will know in the next day or so if I can get the time away from the day job. I am reasonably confident that my son Ashley will be able to travel as well so adding another flier to the total... We will confirm as soon as is possible. How could I miss it especially if we do the proof of concept at the NE event this weekend for the 10 x 10! 100 fliers is easy really <grins> Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcom714 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Simply.......................YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Gotcha added Rich, I'll look for notes from your teamies. I'm cherry picking a few pilots for top 1 and 2 positions in columns, but I'll otherwise be stacking teammates together whenever possible. There will sometimes be situations where I'll need to take one out and assign them to a column in need of leadership. Working for balance however, and we can *always* move stuff around. Felix, cool about Ashley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beach Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 You know I'm up for it............ Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortflyer Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 You know I'm up for it............ Ben Ben, Hows that basket weaving coming along ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Wouldn't miss it. Grandma's already got the reservation at the Thousand Trails RV Park, and we'll be there the whole week. I'm sure Grandma would be willing to help with the safety boundaries stuff, but I'll let her decide that when the time comes I'm really looking forward to meeting many new faces, and seeing some returning ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartman Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I'm 100%, positive, on the fence about it! I'd need to try those practice grids the days leading up to it and, hopefully, someone in the know would come up to me and say "yes" or "no" before the attempts. I'm an adult and can handle the rejection just fine. I won't need to pick up my toys and go home. Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I'm 100%, positive, on the fence about it! I'd need to try those practice grids the days leading up to it and, hopefully, someone in the know would come up to me and say "yes" or "no" before the attempts. I'm an adult and can handle the rejection just fine. I won't need to pick up my toys and go home. Bart Hey Bart, It looks like some of us will be there to encourage you. Best wishes Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousieo Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 lol Bart is up to it.. believe me.. Don't let him tell you otherwise. Connor and I are in for the week.. and this time, I will bow out of comps to be there if it looks like it's gonna hit 100 .. I don't want to miss it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcom714 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Gotcha added Rich, I'll look for notes from your teamies. I'm cherry picking a few pilots for top 1 and 2 positions in columns, but I'll otherwise be stacking teammates together whenever possible. There will sometimes be situations where I'll need to take one out and assign them to a column in need of leadership. Working for balance however, and we can *always* move stuff around. As you wish sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitecowboy Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Barts idea of a mega fly is if a seagull flys by swift current while he's flying. Candy and I will be there and hopefully Joe will be up to some grid flying, I'll send a pm with all the details. Long Beach or bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Bart, when do you anticipate arriving at WSIKF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartman Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Barts idea of a mega fly is if a seagull flys by swift current while he's flying. ... He says as he stands in his horse pasture by himself.... Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 List updated, I think I've got everyone thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visual Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Lori & I will arrive on Monday and leave the following Monday We wouldn't miss this see you all there. Don't delay, reserve your spot today!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Gotcha Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartman Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Bart, when do you anticipate arriving at WSIKF? I'm going to PM you with the answers to your questions, but as far as I know the plan is to be there Sunday and leaving the Monday after it is over so it's the full meal deal - 7 days. Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrunya Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wow wow wow! Looking at the list, there are some big names who I have never met in person. I am so looking forward to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wow, this would be cool. I cannot make any commitment at this time, but I will keep it in mind and see if there's a chance to work it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnmitchell Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 John, What is your experience team flying 10 REVs in a vertical line on 120ft lines? Does it work well? Can you maneuver well with each rev keeping the same altitude? p.s. I doubt I would be able to make it to WSIKF. Cash is way down these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Good question John... iQuad flew 10 pilots at 2 events using 120' lines and most of our traditional maneuvers, including a 10-man blender (aka overdrive) at 5:30 in the video below. There was't a lot of room to work with all pilots standing side by side, but *just* enough to fit if all pilots are fairly capable. I'm thinking with the effect of the staggered column body placement, the top and bottom of the formation's window will expand (overall) by 8' to 12', plus the additional margin allowed by wing overlap instead of wingtips existing at the same relative depth in the sky. I hear tell some folks in the UK will doing some testing on 10 high one of these coming weekends, looking forward to reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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