Choccy Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thanks to a few flyers donating funsized quadkites to me this year, I sort of started collecting them. Not sure why they think I had problems with being dragged around the field.... Anyway I've started to make my own progressive stack 'funsized' just for fun. 31" (Violet was supposed to be 32" but shrunk) 34" 'Little Choc' 36" 'Pur' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Look forward to the new pictures. Hope it all works out OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 lookin good choccy .. i really hope its a sucess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melnsct Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 That sounds so awesome. I can't wait to see it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauranyyfan Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The colors are purrr-fect !!! Good luck with her and don't forget to have tons of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Choccy, The sticks need to be cut-down, more flush with the sail, so the connecting lines don't get snagged up in flight. I have three stacks of baby ryv kites and a few hours of experience. A bridle may help to smooth out some of the stack's ultra twitchyness also. Fly the back kite! (keep repeating this phrase to yourself, as the stack gets longer) The smallest kite goes in the front on a progressive stack The little buggers are going to be so much fun, thanks for sharing with us and happy holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 well here is a bridled ryv kite for you choccy if you want an idea on how its done.. revflier everytime i fly this thing i love it more and more .. thank you again..it is a little tricky to mnake a bridle for this kite.. i had to make a few throe aways before i got it right..the bridle does make it much eazier to fly espically in a heavy wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 thank Harold Ames for that design, man he hit a home run making these back in 2000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hello and thank you for your informative and fun comments you can see a gallery with the stack in progress here tinsel and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 man that thing is gonna be a fast one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 man that thing is gonna be a fast one that's what makes it soooooo fun Thanks for your rainbow mini quad pic with bridle detail. I shall try this set up if my current bridle doesn't work. I suppose I could always add tails to slow them down, what a tangle that would be @Revflyer PM inbound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linekahuna Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 well here is a bridled ryv kite for you choccy if you want an idea on how its done.. revflier everytime i fly this thing i love it more and more .. thank you again..it is a little tricky to mnake a bridle for this kite.. i had to make a few throe aways before i got it right..the bridle does make it much eazier to fly espically in a heavy wind Antman, how did you get my kite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 im good like that what can i tell ya!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 here's an old picture from Harold's development stage on a stack of minis We were experimenting with stress, so tie two stack together and see what happens. We learned to insert a point 125 carbon tube INSIDE the 2 ply SkyShark tubes (42 inches long) on the first few kites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 paul if you come to wildwood again or maryland please bring that it is soo much fun to fly .. im planning on doing my own soon as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 here's an old picture from Harold's development stage on a stack of minis cool pic... and stack... are these made with a LE mesh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVflyer Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 cool pic... and stack... are these made with a LE mesh ? nope, no venting. None needed on kite that is this size in my humble opinion, . . .... how easy would it be to "dump all the air" with a quick flick of the thumb? The kite shape started out as a reduction in size from Kitesquid's 1point6 design, created back in '99 for the smithsonian kite festival. (imagine the indoor Rev, but with the flight dynamics of a stock 1.5) The entire sail is one piece of fabric (icarex if possible) done as a "no-sew" assembly with 3M's 9460 hi-bond adhesive. There are soft rubber Apa fittings on the all corners (to absorb some shock from fast impacts). His stacks also featured a set of free-floating train lines that pass-through the stack and affix directly to the bridle tie-down locations, not end-caps. Each kite is tied onto the master line independently, as opposed to the kite in front. (a great concept with superb implementation!) The kites are built upon a skyshark 2 ply frame as a 42 inch leading edge (SS spine) and tapered 2P down-spars (using only the skinniest ends of the tubes). Harold had the shipyards fabricate a piece of 1/2 inch thick aluminum sheeting as his sail template, (we swear it was orbital-based laser sheared by the starwars program too!) In a bigger wind (stock they fly controllably inverted in zero-wind w/a walking pace 360!) we learned to insert a point 125 carbon tube inside the leading edge to reinforce it. This tube is cut a 1/4 inch longer, so you can easily push it out, when conditions return to the normal scene around our homes. The only problem with the stack is it's a pain to set-up and put away. Also transporting them, it is outrageous, . . . 'cause nothing breaks-down. Lastly, a significant design flaw in hindsight, the sails were tensioned with oh-rings instead of bungie. It was a stage our club went thru,.... enough said! That means no knots to snag or tangle, but alas these things aren't designed for expansion/elasticity as used either. Oh-rings are designed for a compression application, like the washer in the hose/faucet joint. So the darn things get dry-rotted and need to be replaced. I'm L-A-Z-Y and haven't gotten around to that long drawn-out mission just yet! It needs to be done, but transporting the stacks is handled in a big ole hard-sided, double sized golf bag carrier by SKB. It fills whatever space is available, such a hassle despite wheels!, even in my own home. The darn things take up more room than half a dozen kids would need!!!! The fun of these things is beyond description though, that is their only saving grace. But who's going to pay full price for such a mini-rig?, Lolly and the factory weren't interested even when offered the template and bridle board as well as a sample kite. No market out there, so you've gotta' do it yourself Choccy. I swore to my bride back in 2000, that if she allowed my to acquire two stacks, I'd never need another kite EVER again! They are not for sale naturally, only available on a long-term, non refundable security deposit, since Kitesquid could not store them all in his humble residence. (his own personal set does have a very impressive carrier, it's made of corrugated plastic and covered with fabric from his grand-mother's sofa ~ I am deadly serious!) Anyway, he hangs out at the forum for builders, if you want any specific questions answered, that I can't help you with personally. http://www.kitebuilder.com/forums/index.php I only created the bridle. Several other members in our club also spent an entire summer assisting Harold with testing, offering him feedback and just beatin' 'em to see what they'd take before destruction. getting these mini-ryvs through testing and still having them be durable enough for an experienced rev flier to have a lesson provided us with so much knowledge. In a mini-kite everything is magnified, the smallest error becomes huge when working thru a stack. I've asked the big-fella several times about repairing my/his stacks. Mine are alternating solid Black & Rainbow sails, at least six of each of 'em. One of them alone is a quaylude and 6 pack,... you just can't get your mind around how fast the darn thing is, it's like being severely intoxicated on an icy road. We called flying them gracefully the final exam for a Ph.D. in quad-line. When you're ready Choccy, we want to see some video of your mini-Revs in action! -paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 bought the spars for Violet... so it won't be long before it's finished and joined/stacked with the other mini-quads . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 ^that's great news, Choccy! There are few things more satisfying than seeing one of your own creations flying for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linekahuna Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yes! A progressive stack of Ninjas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 cant wait to see the finished product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 So as not to take up any more 'space' on here, I'll PM those who are interested with the finished article. thanx. @Jim I wonder if a stack of mini-Ninjas would work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 fell free to pm me with the details .. i want to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choccy Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I haven't forgotten about you'll with my updates! But darnit, someone has beaten me to it with an even smaller mini-stack of kites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 that looks like a regular mini stack not a progressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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