play365 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 For a cement to use on the ferrules, I would think a slow set epoxy would be best. Super glue sets way too brittle, and as mentioned, really needs a tight fit to bond right. Just my 2 cents...... Hot glue that way you can get them out if/when they move + if you carry a hot glue stick and a lighter with you , you can make repairs on the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hot glue that way you can get them out if/when they move + if you carry a hot glue stick and a lighter with you , you can make repairs on the field Gary, I had planned on using epoxy if when mine moved, but the hot glue sounds like it could be a better idea since it's a little more flexible. The hot glue that archers use to hold the aluminum inserts into fiberglass arrow shafts would seem to be the best. That glue holds well through some tremendous impacts and flexing. My only concern would be how heat would affect the epoxy that Rev uses to hold the carbon fibers in place. In RC airplane modelling, heat is used to disassemble epoxy joints. A little heat from a heat gun and the epoxy structure will deteriorate such that balsa joints can be safely taken apart. Wonder if Ben would give us some guidance on the use of heat on Rev rods? Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JynxKites Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Wonder if Ben would give us some guidance on the use of heat on Rev rods?Cheers, Tom Guidance from Ben? Just give him a call and order a set! He guided my set right to my front door! Luv'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
play365 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Gary,I had planned on using epoxy if when mine moved, but the hot glue sounds like it could be a better idea since it's a little more flexible. The hot glue that archers use to hold the aluminum inserts into fiberglass arrow shafts would seem to be the best. That glue holds well through some tremendous impacts and flexing. My only concern would be how heat would affect the epoxy that Rev uses to hold the carbon fibers in place. In RC airplane modelling, heat is used to disassemble epoxy joints. A little heat from a heat gun and the epoxy structure will deteriorate such that balsa joints can be safely taken apart. Wonder if Ben would give us some guidance on the use of heat on Rev rods? Cheers, Tom The last time I had to get a ferrule out I just held it under the hot tap at home , I think Rev use hot glue anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerochic Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Guidance from Ben? Just give him a call and order a set! He guided my set right to my front door! Luv'em! Are the rods numbered, or is it really easy to figure out where they go? That's an awful lot of parts. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JynxKites Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Are the rods numbered, or is it really easy to figure out where they go? That's an awful lot of parts. :? All rods are the same length... some have a ferrule, some not... Two (one with/one without) for each upright, the rest for the LE. If I (being blonde) can figure it out, almost anyone can! Even a man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 The only quirky part is making sure you get the ferrules right (not too many - not too few), just cut and lay 'em out like a Rev frame, then add ferrules accordingly... Assembly is easy, ferrules tell the tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 The only quirky part is making sure you get the ferrules right (not too many - not too few), just cut and lay 'em out like a Rev frame, then add ferrules accordingly... Assembly is easy, ferrules tell the tale. John, Maybe you know the answer on the amount of heat the Rev rods will take before they weaken. I've never had problems with arrow shafts ... just keep applying heat with a heat gun until the hot melt glue softens. Are the Rev shafts comparable? Also, are the ferrules 3 1/2 inches long? Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomzilla Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 3 7/8 inches...g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 3 7/8 inches...g Thanks Glenn! Have you thought about converting the double ferruled rod to a single ferrule? Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteLife Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Jeep, no idea on heat... Never gone there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS Kite Stakes Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 The following is only my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt! The heat the carbon fiber rods can take would be about the same as a hollow fiberglass rod. The resin is the limiting factor, and can probably take @ 150F before it starts to break down. Hot glue is a great suggestion, flexable when hard, can be removed if needed, not much wieght if used sparingly, and fills small gaps well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepster Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 All rods are the same length... some have a ferrule, some not... Two (one with/one without) for each upright, the rest for the LE. If I (being blonde) can figure it out, almost anyone can! Even a man! Okay, since my bracket sketch might not be clear for us non-blonds, I did a quick power-point slide of what the rods should look like. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomzilla Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Have you thought about converting the double ferruled rod to a single ferrule? have a broken bit of race rod that is perfect length to trim for project...will just need another ferrule...g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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