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Rev 1 introduction

After a string <grins> of high wind days c3-5 mph was on offer at Blackheath today. Jacob turned up and eventually we put up a set of team Rev1's and had Jade and ATM doing some basic moves. The JMH graphics looked great. Too busy for pics!

Jade and ATM quickly found effective control of the Rev1 with 4 wrap spars!

5 fliers. 3 1.5JB, 1 Anniversary, 4 JMH Rev1.


Handle holding orthodoxy

On Blackheath today it was 15mph plus, I guess, from the East with snow flurries blowing through and great cloudscapes.

I have been trying to see how far the long arm technique can be extended into high wind situations. Rather than using the forward/brake control of the handles I have been trying to hit the balance point where the wing of the kite only moves forwards with a full pull of the arms.

Instead of adding brake by adjusting line lengths I have been shifting my grip on the handles way down from the tops. It is a risky strategy in my previous experience but it does seem to deliver those high speed, no wobble stops, at any orientation. Also helps with the 'treacle' mode!

11am - 1pm Five fliers, 4 1.5 JB vented, 1 1.5 10 year old vented.


Long Arm Slow rotations

So, in the pouring rain today I was rotating the kite slowly in the middle of the wind window about a kites width above the ground, and I mean... slowly!

Flying Rev 1.5B vented, standard spars. My concern is arm span and the angle of the kite to the wind. I have to move back briskly when the kite was face up which gives an indication of the actual wind speed. Face down is less of an issue as we are aware and I was probably moving forwards at that point to compensate. The transition from left arm forward to right arm forward was continuous throughout the rotations. A 'slow march'.

If I can use an alternating full arm stretch with a Rev 1.5 would it actually be possible to utilise a Rev 1 'fully' in these conditions?

This is probably a rhetorical question!


Sunday 30th November 2008

Blackheath wet and muddy, no clear evidence of Canadian Goose shit today. They were down by the pond!

Wind N to NE, vented speed to begin with but fading as the front passed.

ATM had trouble with wet lines sticking with symmetrical twists but having got through that managed to grasp the concept of the 'bow and arrow' position for lateral passes and to hold the kite in a hover and move forwards (downwind).

We had adjusted lines to assess the 'feel' of the kite and to correct an incorrectly set length on one line by trial and error.

MW also had issues with settings and we increased 'brake' to give more 'pressure' on the kite.

Both fliers had been backing up hundreds of yards when the breeze was stronger. I had to rescue both of them from the lee of the roundabout. It is surprising how much a small group of low trees can interrupt the effective wind flow.

It is not teaching, just observing... They do the learning!


One role that needs to be addressed for future events will be a 'field organiser' who would get the fliers lined up and correctly spaced and then keep an eye on the fliers positions on the ground during a performance. (This should probably not be in the callers/leaders remit except for determining the overall configuration)

Another possible role is for a 'spotter' to home in on any flier who is having difficulties and to guide/advise them accordingly and may also involve relaying a '2nd strike invitation' to land their kite (and move off the field) as has been suggested elsewhere. (The caller/leader may need to initiate the request)

There may be other 'rules of engagement' that need to be discussed.

Reminder... Rule number 1. It is supposed to be fun so do not take it too seriously OK?

The caller/leader may have to be allowed complete discretion to determine the number of fliers and request others to leave the field. The fliers may need to confirm their agreement to this prior to taking part....

There are many sports where the rules are quite difficult to interpret but where the official has the final say. Given the precarious dynamics that might be involved we will have to give the caller/leader free reign IMHO.



Mega Team lines

So if each flier is on 4 x 120ft = 480 ft.

There are 36 fliers so 480 x 36 = 17,280 ft.

There are 5,280 ft in a mile if my memory serves me correctly so that make 3.27 miles of line.

With 54 fliers, 480 x 54 = 25,920 ft which is 4.9 miles.

With 100 fliers, 480 x 100 = 48,000 ft which is 9.1 miles.

Quite a lot of string!


Oh well, another year! <grins>

Nothing is confirmed, as yet. 1st January 2012

  • 12-16/04/2012 Berck-Plage, France
  • 21/04-29/05/2012 Cervia, Italy
  • 05-07/05/2012 Weymouth
  • 26-27/05/2012 Exmouth
  • 25-27/08/2012 Portsmouth
  • Margate


Rev Blogs

So, never having Blogged before please let me try to understand what is expected. (apart from the last two!)

I fly Revolution kites most weekends on Blackheath in SE London, sometimes with the team, The Decorators.

There are anecdotes and observations relating to this and related matters which I may want to record for my own and potentially, (who knows) other's interest!

I first posted (in 2007) on the Revolution Forum in respect of organising the Portsmouth/Bristol events in 2008. Occasionally/often responses to postings in the forum may be outside the topic in strict terms. OT in 'usenet' was a fairly strict designation but we may not want to go there.

There have been observations about the friendly and inclusive nature of the Rev Forums which I would endorse and I would applaud the careful moderation of the site. I have seen a couple of examples of individual posters getting over excited and have withdrawn some of my own posts as a result!

As I understand it, we can use the space to contemplate possibilities that we had not thought of previously, like the grid format! <grins>


Grid Format

David noted in his REVisions : Grid Economics article:-

'But, Felix Mottram, founder of The Decorators <snip> had an idea one night. Maybe it came to him in a dream, or he looked at something and an idea popped into his head, but he began to try and get some of us to get our head around it. And to be honest it made no sense to me initially, I know I had problems visualizing how it would work. I don’t think I “really” got it until such time as Felix worked a group of us through it in Uchinada earlier this year.'


'And, the first time I got to experience it first hand was in Uchinada Beach where Felix had managed to make his way over to the festival.'

I had started to try and document the process of getting a large Revolution Team event together by copying all the messages in the Revolution Event 2008 thread into one place but it was too painful.

I arrived at the idea of the Grid in 1993 and wrote to Revolution at that time.

Having proposed the Portsmouth/Bristol events it was apparent that all the players would need to be on-side if we were going to attempt the Grid format. Having been at the rained off event at Uchinada in 2004 I had some reason to try and get there again.

Serendipity comes to mind.


Sunday 23rd November 2009

Early morning snow followed by rain finally cleared around midday so a late trip to Blackheath.

Bright sun for a while and then a passing shower with a complete, perfect rainbow.

Variable breeze, vented 1.5B for me and 10 year old vented for ATM who is getting the hover and 180s with leading edge vertical some of the time.

Looks like the clock 12:25 on the edit page is on New York time!